striker fired pistols.. best out right now.

Don't you want to hang out with the cool kids?

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Originally Posted by rustycrusty

Here's a different question to ask yourself-

what are the best shooters in the world (or the world you care about) shooting? I look at USPSA and IPSC.
-I believe there's a reason why so few people at the top shoot XD's- because it's harder to win with them. They have a VERY terrible slide weight and height over bore which translates into harder to manage recoil in any caliber to caliber comparison with most other models. HK is guilty of this too, IMO.

I look to the top competitor's choices to start my search. Out of those guns present (a shitload of glocks, M&Ps, and 1911s in extreme customized format) I look at what are in use by LE and MIL communities (much less at mil because pistol is not their game...)

Next, I look at what's got the best rep for reliability.

In in my reasoning I was left with Glock and M&P.

Glock aftermarket trigger parts parts abound and most are less than $50
M&P has the APEX trigger ~$150? Dunno- pricey.

If if you take both guns down you might think that the M&P is a slighly more complicated copy of the glock...

That's why I like my glocks. If I had to sell all but 1 pistol I would choose my g19 for everything every time.

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Agree 99% - I'd keep a G36

The "Cool Kids" get paid to shoot a gun. It may or may not be the gun that they actually think is "best". And sometimes the gun the "Cool Kids" have has been worked over extensively to make the Cool Kid happy.

Doesn't mean that the guns the CoolKids are shooting is bad.

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Originally Posted by rustycrusty

Don't you want to hang out with the cool kids?

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The cool kids won't let me hang out with them. I think they're jealous because I'm smarter than them and better looking.

[Coffee]

(Hope you didn't take offense to me finding humor in your post. I understand where you were going with it. Just struck me funny the way it came across.)

[Beer]

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Originally Posted by ray1970

The cool kids won't let me hang out with them. I think they're jealous because I'm smarter than them and better looking.

[Coffee]

(Hope you didn't take offense to me finding humor in your post. I understand where you were going with it. Just struck me funny the way it came across.)

[Beer]

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We invite you to hang out one day a month and pretty much all of us shoot Glocks or M&Ps. [emoji12] [emoji6]

No offense taken.
Just wanted OP to know that glocks are THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST... And M&Ps are alright too.

and if they don't fit his hands it's because God made his hands wrong...

SIG P229

It is what the really cool kids carry...and it isn't striker fired [Flower]

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Originally Posted by cstone

SIG P229

It is what the really cool kids carry...and it isn't striker fired [Flower]

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I'd still love to try out a 224, unfortunately the price prohibits it. They look like pretty sweet little CCW pistols.

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Originally Posted by davsel

Agree 99% - I'd keep a G36

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Funny you mention the G36. It's the only Glock that comfortably fits my hand (which apparently wasn't built using the universal template). I'm a fan.

...but I really love my PPQ M1.

We met up first week of Nov and he was able to test fire my PPQ M2, rent an M&P and shoot my full size XDm, all in 9mm. Had a G19 available as well, but it just does not float his boat.

Personally, in this whole 'shoot what the pros shoot' mindset discussion, I prefer to 'shoot how the pros shoot'. I think KC Eusebio (for example) would kill it with my XDm 4.5", because he's good fundamentally. You could drop a CZ SP01 Shadow in my hands next match and I could not shoot a better score, not because the gun isn't fantastic, but because I am not. So, details like fit in hand, stock trigger pull, and aesthetic appeal do matter to the average joe.

Stay safe, stay warm, and shoot what makes you happy. FWIW, I will be offloading my G19 and PPQ. XDm for me (and a new compound bow with proceeds!).