Yeah...your NC permit is not good here once you become a resident. You should have proof of training from the Army that will satisfy CO requirements. Don't get caught carrying with a NC permit.
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Yeah...your NC permit is not good here once you become a resident. You should have proof of training from the Army that will satisfy CO requirements. Don't get caught carrying with a NC permit.
Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
"That Population" refered to an earlier post by Bailey in which he described mandated training as a barrier to a person's right to self defense especially for the poor who have very limited funds for this. To insist that they not only fess up the money for the permit and background check but also have to pay for training, was adding more barriers in their way. That gave me something to think about. As a firearms instructor who has spent a lot of time and money obtaining the teaching credintials that I have, I am well within my rights to ask for payment for my services. However, these services, when mandated by the law, can become a barrier to many of the people who need it the most. Elderly people, living on a fixed and limited income. Single parents who are trying to make ends meet in an economy that shows no mercy. I've actually been giving some serious thought to volunteering my time and expertise to teaching some of these people who need, but can't afford the training. I'm sorry if this makes me elitist in some way. That was not my intent. As for the Spanish speaking community, I'll have to leave that in your able hands. I have not said nor implied in any way shape or form that Spanish speaking Americans should not have training. As a matter of fact, the subject has never come up until now.
As for my comments about the NRA training, it was put to me from an NRA Training Counselor that these handgun classes had prerequises, and had to be taken in order. I was just speaking to what I had been told. Yes, I agree with you that any of the classes mentioned would meet the criteria for training required for a CHP, my point was that the only one that referances the State Laws governing use of force, is the last one. I believe that anyone who is preparing to carry a concealed weapon, NEEDS to know the Laws governing that weapons use. The State of CO puts that responcibility solely on the individual, and doesn't even tell them.
And, for the record, I'm 53, retired from the Colorado Air National Guard with 27 years of service, 12 of which were on Active Duty, and all but 4 of those 27 years, I spent teaching people how to defend themselves and others through the use of small arms.
For all of you begging for more gov't oversight for CCW permits/training standards, you're about to get your wish. Congratulations.
FYI there was a guy by the last name of Mangus that was posing as a BATFE agent and allegedly giving out fake (forged) CHPs to folks in SE Colorado. If you took a class from this dude and got a card, go see your local SO.
Impersonating a federal agent is a federal crime. Do you know if it was investigated? Was he arrested, charged, prosecuted?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcculver5
Thank you for passing along the information.
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Originally Posted by cstone
My understanding is that he has been charged in State District Court.
The feds? In SE CO? No man, haven't seen any of those dudes in years. Years.
If I was to give some friends in Colorado Springs some recommendations for training class to meet CHP requirements, who would people recommend?
I just need some very straightforward safety training for these friends, and the basics of lethal force, etc. Nothing high speed low drag or mall ninja or any instructor giving them bull manure war stories.
Feel free to have them get in touch with us also.Quote:
Originally Posted by spqrzilla
All new instructors are advised to do the general runaround and meet with their local sheriffs to have their Certified Instructor status kept on file. It is also helpful in gaining business and keeping that professional relationship active. They are generally very welcoming and it helps speed the process when students head in.
If taking a CCW class and you are unsure (Or the instructor is vague on credentials) ask him before hand which sheriff's office he is on file with and they can confirm if he is registered in your local county.