S&G electronic lock problems?

Looks like a brand new Duracell fixed the problem. Thanks for all the input though, I’ll keep it in mind for the future.


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Originally Posted by SAnd

I have a safe with an S&G lock system on it. Originally it was electronic but I think it acted up a couple times. I got real paranoid it wouldn't open so I replaced it with a mechanical dial lock. I miss the convenience of push buttons but I trust the dial lock more.

You can replace your electronic S&G lock with a S&G mechanical dial if your safe is like mine. It's a Browning safe. S&G made the lock systems so that they 'bolt' right in the same mounting holes. If they sold your safe with both electronic and dial lock I'd bet that it is the same way. The conversion kit was less than $100.

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Most of the lock manufactures use the same lock body size (standard footprint) so that mounting them requires no drilling and tapping new holes in the safes lock hard plate.

You want the convenience of the electronic keypad but the reliability of a mechanical lock, have you looked at redundant locks. IMO it's the best way to go!

Oh and I forgot to mention earlier, most safe manufactures don't warranty the locks as they carry a separate warranty that's 12mo....some commercial locks go 24mo. Sure you can probably persuade a safe manufacture to send a new lock out but not after several years of owning it.

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Originally Posted by Martinjmpr

Looks like a brand new Duracell fixed the problem. Thanks for all the input though, I’ll keep it in mind for the future.


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Good news!

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Originally Posted by opie011

Most of the lock manufactures use the same lock body size (standard footprint) so that mounting them requires no drilling and tapping new holes in the safes lock hard plate.

You want the convenience of the electronic keypad but the reliability of a mechanical lock, have you looked at redundant locks. IMO it's the best way to go!

Oh and I forgot to mention earlier, most safe manufactures don't warranty the locks as they carry a separate warranty that's 12mo....some commercial locks go 24mo. Sure you can probably persuade a safe manufacture to send a new lock out but not after several years of owning it.

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So . . . stupid question, but is the general idea behind the redundant lock that if the keypad fails, you can just use the dial as an option? What's a ballpark cost of swapping out a mechanical for one of those?

I have a Bighorn safe that I got from Costco and it's been great for what I need it for. No issues with the electronic lock ever, but it does sit in the back of my head as to how hosed I'd be if it ever died.

Edit: Not sure what I was thinking when I typed this, but the current lock is KEYPAD . . . not mechanical as I originally wrote.

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Originally Posted by Ramsker

So . . . stupid question, but is the general idea behind the redundant lock that if the keypad fails, you can just use the dial as an option? What's a ballpark cost of swapping out a mechanical for one of those?

I have a Bighorn safe that I got from Costco and it's been great for what I need it for. No issues with the mechanical lock ever, but it does sit in the back of my head as to how hosed I'd be if it ever died.

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Here is one of opie's old posts that has pricing

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/141799-...eme-Safe-Lock?

Not sure if the pricing still stands.

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Originally Posted by Martinjmpr

Looks like a brand new Duracell fixed the problem. Thanks for all the input though, I’ll keep it in mind for the future.


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If you haven't already done so. Pull the new battery and date it, something everyone should do when swapping batteries. Gives you an idea how long it's been in use. Also helps you trouble shoot the item in question, knowing when it was put in service.

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Originally Posted by 00tec

Here is one of opie's old posts that has pricing

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/141799-...eme-Safe-Lock?

Not sure if the pricing still stands.

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Good to know. This might be a future upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

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If you haven't already done so. Pull the new battery and date it, something everyone should do when swapping batteries. Gives you an idea how long it's been in use. Also helps you trouble shoot the item in question, knowing when it was put in service.

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No need to date it, I'll just remember the time I posted about it on AR-15.co and search for this post to find out when I put in the new battery. [Coffee]

I change my safe batteries when I change my smoke alarm batteries. Pick an easy to remember date...I chose the 4th of July as my annual battery replacement day.