Trump moves on bump stocks.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

No surprise here. I know his personality type well; he holds no real foundation or views. (former registered D, btw). True Narcissist but a phenotype much akin to my ex brother-in-law. Trumps political position could shift an 180 if the other side started worshiping him for it. So the risk here, is if they stop criticism and start laying praise... or if his existing base starts attacking him, he's going to start shifting to center faster than a teenager can get their pants off in the back of a car.

If you don't understand, the only thing that matters is worship... if the worship changes to the other side (somewhat unlikely at this point) so does his views and actions...

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I am surprised because I have watched Libs threaten to murder him and his family. I have watched elite Libs cheer this on. Even Ivanka has been shunned by former elite NYC friends. And don't even talk about the media!

The whole world is against Trump. Except those of us who voted for him and most of us are gun owners.

I am surprised he would even entertain the idea of taking us down a notch unless he thinks the risk isn't worth the reward.

He used the word "machine gun" in his letter several times. Bump stocks do not a machine gun make. Let's hope that language was purposeful.

I learn something new every day. Apparently "bump stocks" turn regular semi automatic rifles into machine guns. It's sad that the generic public (sheeple) will not understand this and only hear the word "machine gun."

I've always harbored a strong dislike for this president, and knew from the debates he was no 2A fan, but it's still disappointing.

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Originally Posted by Shooter45

I learn something new every day. Apparently "bump stocks" turn regular semi automatic rifles into machine guns. It's sad that the generic public (sheeple) will not understand this and only hear the word "machine gun."

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This is the unfortunate part of the "I'm not touching you" style of modern non-NFA type items. The bumpstock is the obvious example (but this category includes the "braces" and things like the shockwave). If the product lets you hold down the trigger and have the rifle continue to fire that's going to be a machinegun to most people, regardless of the actual definition of a machinegun. Besides the obvious shitting on the 2A, we have to be really careful about what other shit gets thrown in with the ban, like how Denver tossed mags over 15rds in with their bumpstock ban.

I'm amazed Chuck and Nancy haven't come out against Trump banning something [Sarcasm2]

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Trump is incapable of these three things:

Love
Hate
True loyalty.

Although he is incapable of actual hate; jealousy and vengeance are more primative, fleeting emotions they do heavily dabble in. So, in a nutshell, unlike you or I (if someone threatened our family) where we'd never let someone on our beach for life; Trump is a boat forever adrift, perpetually looking for whatever harbor celebrates him the most. As long as Trumpettes think he is the shit, he will wear his hat and make his goofy smiles there. But the second the liberals go "THANK YOU TRUMP" while the Trumpettes scorn him....
Well, then his boat parks in that other harbor. They don't have the emotional processing to really hold a (true) grudge. If his basic need is met (worship) nothing else matters. They are also very charismatic and cycle through friends like underwear. Everything is generally black and white, they either think someone is the SHIT or they are a piece of SHIT, there is little in between. (And nobody stays in either camp forever....)

If you know someone like this in your life, they will never *actually* have your back, no matter what they say. And you are always at risk of them spontaneously turning on you, and not with causation.

I'd have never accepted a job in the Trump white house for this reason..
Unstable and high propensity to do far more harm to your resume than good.

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He isn't going to convert Libs (he has no issues) and his boat is sunk if he betrays gun owners. I have never seen so much hatred at one man in my life as I've seen with Libs and Trump. To call it "two minutes of hate" is understating it.

Look at how fragile the 2016 victory was. Look at how Dims have been winning local races/issues. If he breaks his base, and they don't come out for him in 2020, he is done.

I imagine being a one-termer would bruise the ego a bit. It's like being fired because the incumbent typically has the advantage.

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Originally Posted by Skip

He isn't going to convert Libs (he has no issues) and his boat is sunk if he betrays gun owners. I have never seen so much hatred at one man in my life as I've seen with Libs and Trump. To call it "two minutes of hate" is understating it.

Look at how fragile the 2016 victory was. Look at how Dims have been winning local races/issues. If he breaks his base, and they don't come out for him in 2020, WE are done.

I imagine being a one-termer would bruise the ego a bit. It's like being fired because the incumbent typically has the advantage.

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FIFY

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Originally Posted by Skip

I am surprised because I have watched Libs threaten to murder him and his family. I have watched elite Libs cheer this on. Even Ivanka has been shunned by former elite NYC friends. And don't even talk about the media!

The whole world is against Trump. Except those of us who voted for him and most of us are gun owners.

I am surprised he would even entertain the idea of taking us down a notch unless he thinks the risk isn't worth the reward.

He used the word "machine gun" in his letter several times. Bump stocks do not a machine gun make. Let's hope that language was purposeful.

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Originally Posted by Shooter45

I learn something new every day. Apparently "bump stocks" turn regular semi automatic rifles into machine guns. It's sad that the generic public (sheeple) will not understand this and only hear the word "machine gun."

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Thought I would add this post of mine from another thread:
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/167196-Boulder-AR-15-Ban

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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by from thedenverchannel article linked in Boulder AR-15 Ban thread

Even at the Federal level, the tide may be turning. When asked about an assault weapons ban today, the White House Press Secretary said, "We haven't closed the door on any front." Also Tuesday, President Trump pushed for a federal ban on bump stocks.

"Just a few moments ago, I signed a memorandum directing the Attorney General to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," said Trump.

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Is this a crafty Trump statement, or is this a caving? Because "devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns" are already regulated.

Hopefully, it's the former, and he's playing the dims for fools, and not a harbinger of policy shifts to come.

banning bump stocks is completely stupid. One maniac "allegedly" uses one in Vegas (I have my doubts as to it actually being a bump stock that was used), and everyone loses their freaking minds.

The people that own them are responsible, law-abiding gun owners that just want to go to the range, and have a little fun with accelerated rate of fire.

Full auto is FUN. It's an excitement factor. And it's also expensive on ammo.

Sick of this ban this, ban that crap. [emoji1589] off and leave our gun rights alone. [emoji35]


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