Yes. Also, FCC approved F3E (FM as it’s commonly known) for use on CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
https://cbradiomagazine.com/fcc-appr...usa-cb-radios/
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Yes. Also, FCC approved F3E (FM as it’s commonly known) for use on CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
https://cbradiomagazine.com/fcc-appr...usa-cb-radios/
Someone going to have to explain this a bit more to me, because I'm slow. You're telling me, that an entire BRAND is not FCC Certified?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant H.
And if you're not talking about the entire brand but just one device, which one are you referencing as not being FCC Certified to operate on GMRS frequencies?
For example, the UV-5R which is typically what people are talking about when referring to Baofeng and the subject of this thread, is FCC certified as a portable transceiver on 136-174MHZ/400-480MHZ, FCC Identifier ZP5BF-5R. Last I checked, 462MHz and 467MHz were in that range. And you can absolutely set the wattage to operate within the FCC permitted power range for GMRS.
Did they revoke that authorization or am I misunderstanding?
I just this minute downloaded this from the FCC OET website...
Attachment 89418
Who fucking cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Power output isn't restricted on this radio for certain bands. 5 watts for the radio but that isn't limited in the radio for gmrs or frs.
Also narrow or wide signal I beleive too.
Technicalities of it.
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Ah, for FRS CH 8-14 you mean? I can see that since the low power on a UV-5R is 1W and those are limited to 0.5W. But wouldn't that make all GMRS radios illegal? Because every one that I have used allows those channels to be programmed to transmit at higher wattage. All of them depend on the operator using them properly. (Same thing as the legal operation of these particular radios depending on unlicensed users only transmitting on low power even though the radio can transmit on high.)
So is it then only illegal transmit on those particular channels with this radio? All other GMRS frequencies are 5W or 50W which this radio falls within.
So I'm still curious if someone can explain exactly why it would be illegal to use a baofeng on GMRS altogether. Someone said it's because it's not FCC certified and that's not it. What else is it then?
Gmrs wide band and frs narrow it seems. Uv5r can do either but most likely the user isn't going to bother with it. Or maybe because it is programmable, the fcc won't type accept them for it? vs the gmrs or frs radios are not programmable for such settings. Fixed to narrow or wide etc.
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Ok, so I had to do some digging to get some more specific information.
The ARRL said this about the revised Part 95 rules.
That makes it seem the UV-5R would simply be reclassified. But still a bit vague. So I pulled up the specific rulesQuote:
existing GMRS/FRS radios that operate above that power level (2W) will be reclassified as GMRS devices, requiring an individual license.
FCC Part 95, Subpart E ? 95.1761
So, there it is. They will "no longer" issue authorization for radios like the UV-5R.Quote:
(c) No GMRS transmitter will be certified for use in the GMRS if it is equipped with a frequency capability not listed in ? 95.1763 [462MHz and 476MHz] unless such transmitter is also certified for use in another radio service for which the frequency is authorized and for which certification is also required. No GMRS transmitter will be certified for use in the GMRS if it is equipped with the capabilities to operate in services that do not require equipment certification, such as the Amateur Radio Service. All frequency determining circuitry (including crystals) and programming controls in each GMRS transmitter must be internal to the transmitter and must not be accessible from the exterior of the transmitter operating panel or from the exterior of the transmitter enclosure.
(d) Effective December 27, 2017, the Commission will no longer issue a grant of equipment authorization for hand-held portable unit transmitter types under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B of this part (FRS).
But I can't find anywhere that says they revoked it from existing units and the ARRL says the existing device would just be reclassified.
So, as usual, the government rules are clear as mud.
Not a total loss, at least I learned something today.
Is this all it takes to “unlock” a UV-5r?Quote:
Originally Posted by 00tec
If I put my way back hat on; some of the limitations of which radio could be allowed to support GMRS/MURS was that the radio must have a non-removable antenna....
If I was to play with the GMRS/MURS community I would pick up a dedicated radio for such support...mostly because those radios are cheap...cheap I tell ya. I remember seeing some prices at 60 dollars for a 2 pack of what looked to be an all weather radio.
If I needed an all-in-one radio - I would look hard at maybe the digital / analog style radio that would let me setup groups that make accessing those areas with the appropriate settings match the standards. While the radio would not be approved of such use for transmitting; it would allow the one device to be used in an emergency.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by kpp80202