Ready to throw her under the bus?

There was global trade at the time of Hamilton too. In fact that was one of the main reasons for the revolution. The crown had set up a system of tariffs and manufacturing restrictions that prevented the US from manufacturing. We fought for the right to control our own markets. We fought for the right to determine how we as a nation would set our own tariff and trade system to control our manufacturing destiny from what we perceived as an outside force bent on impoverishing us. Kinda like today with the WTO dictating our trade policies.

Jesus H MF Christ on a bicycle. Don't you noisy MF have jobs or something to occupy your time instead of dick waving on the intarweb.

nynco, you derail more threads than Amtrack.

Fuck. Just fuck.

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If congress is giving their constitutional powers over to an un-elected body (WTO) then that is abdicating and shirking the constitutional mandate.

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Congress does not "give" any constitutional powers to the WTO. Your understanding of the WTO and the underlying trade treaty it administers is of a kind of your reading comprehension. A failure. The WTO hears complaints from nations about another violations of the treaty and its decision are solely of the form that a violation can be met by the complaining nation applying offsetting tariffs on the violating nations' goods.

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There was global trade at the time of Hamilton too. In fact that was one of the main reasons for the revolution. The crown had set up a system of tariffs and manufacturing restrictions that prevented the US from manufacturing. We fought for the right to control our own markets. We fought for the right to determine how we as a nation would set our own tariff and trade system to control our manufacturing destiny from what we perceived as an outside force bent on impoverishing us. Kinda like today with the WTO dictating our trade policies.

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You don't understand the difference between the kind of global trade we have today and the mercantilism system of the British empire (which was NOT free trade at all). You are utterly ignorant of colonial and early US history entirely.

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You don't understand the difference between the kind of global trade we have today and the mercantilism system of the British empire (which was NOT free trade at all). You are utterly ignorant of colonial and early US history entirely.

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No you are ignorant if you think that things are not the same. We were being exploited by the crown who imposed their form of tariffs of the time that banned manufacture by the colonies. The colonies once they were freed then instituted their own national manufacture plan (Alexanders Hamiltons plan that I linked to) that built up our manufacturing base by imposing tariffs and by giving incentives to manufacture here in the US rather than importing. The crown at the time was interwoven in corporations the British East Indy company was a company controlled by the crown. Just like most all the industries in China are controlled by the military in one fashion or another.

We need to start putting America first. That means putting the interest of the whole nation above the corporations that offshore our jobs. They have no allegiance to US and are sure as shinola slitting our nations throat for their own personal profit.

Why do you think the US has such an immense weapons manufacturing base? TARIFFS (laws that prevent the importation of foreign made weapons are the same damn thing) that exist today prevent them from shifting manufacture to China!!!!!!!

Yep, no understanding of the mercantile system at all.

What is the root aim of that system? Get to that and you will see my point.

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No you are ignorant if you think that things are not the same. !

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You continue to demonstrate that you have no understanding of the current world economy. Do you have any actual experience in international trade?

You are also pretty naive if you think that any of your plans, regardless of economic viability, could ever be implemented in any real world scenario.

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What is the root aim of that system? Get to that and you will see my point.

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Profit?

Profit is not always in the best interest of the nation. It would provide more profit for Wallstreet if they could offshore all manufacturing to China. They have no care if it is in the best interests of the nation. What is good for business is not always good for the nation. That is your biggest assumption mistake. Should we allow all our arms manufactures to ship their manufacturing facilities to China? What do you think would happen if we had no more of them manufacturing here? There is a reason we protect them. That same reason should apply to all things not just weapons systems.