So now what for Colorado?

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Originally Posted by -DJ-

A major step would be to unite under the Republican party, and cast off third party candidates that steal votes in close elections. Morse getting elected because of third party votes is an excellent example of this.

Party trumps person, Democrat or Republican, pick the one that represents your views the closest.

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The Dems have been caught tossing financial support to the third party candidates to keep them in the fight to split votes.

There were two races in the state legislature where third party candidates made any difference in the outcome. Third party is a lame excuse for poor Republican candidates.

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Originally Posted by buffalobo

There were two races in the state legislature where third party candidates made any difference in the outcome. Third party is a lame excuse for poor Republican candidates.

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Those two races were the difference between HB13-1224 passing the Senate, and HB13-1224 not passing the Senate with a good chance of the other bills not coming up for a Senate vote, and for the Senate not changing its rules in mid-session to ramrod the bills through.

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Originally Posted by sabot_round

That is exactly what got us in this mess in the first place. People voted for the one that represented their views the closest and we ended up with the DEMOCRAPS!!

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Yep, voting for the party over what's right and best for the people.

BTW - I love your APFSDS pic.

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Originally Posted by davsel

Interesting use of "...your political party."
I take it you are not speaking of your own party here.

I might share your views on 2A (doubt it), but that's as far as I go.
How bout you concern yourself with your own party and stop trying to turn a somewhat "conservative" party into a bunch of Nancy boys.

If the Republican party would grow a pair and tell it like it is, they would increase membership and participation.
Republicans need to stop worrying about catering to the progressive queers and welfare scum and stand for something.

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If you're assuming I'm a democrat you're mistaken, they're just as idiotic as the hard right. You can keep ignoring the gay republicans in your party too and keep pounding that theocracy if you think that'll get things back into gear again while watching your beloved party falter. One CAN be a conservative and not a douche.

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Originally Posted by sabot_round

That is exactly what got us in this mess in the first place. People voted for the one that represented their views the closest and we ended up with the DEMOCRAPS!!

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While I am a Republican party line voter, you do realize that there are others that are Democrats--right?

I am saying that gun owners need to unite under the Republican flag, because while it's not perfect, it's the only way to side step getting Democrats in office because of a split Conservative vote.

My deeper point was that there are, and will only ever be, two parties. Democrat or Republican...that's all you get. Regardless of the political agenda, a vote for any candidate outside of these parties is wasted and turns into a vote for the other side.

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Originally Posted by Epyon

If you're assuming I'm a democrat you're mistaken, they're just as idiotic as the hard right. You can keep ignoring the gay republicans in your party too and keep pounding that theocracy if you think that'll get things back into gear again while watching your beloved party falter. One CAN be a conservative and not a douche.

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Amen! I agree... I almost want to ask davsel how that taking a hardline approach and further alienating potential supporters is working out so far? Look at '12, I think we (we as in conservatives) lost because either by the fault of reporting or the fault of those with microphones in their faces, I'm not going to point fingers, too many believed that the right wanted to take away their rights to choose what to do with their bodies, and tell women what to do. The issue is not so much abortion, many I've talked with (women who voted for Obama) say they don't really care about abortion, it's the fact that they have some old white men in D.C. trying to tell them what they can and can't do with their bodies. They obviously aren't very smart considering Bloomberg is doing that to EVERYONE in NYC... But regardless, my point is that the Republican Party shouldn't have even touched the subject. "How do you feel about abortion?" "Next question." We would be so much better off if they just let it be.

The republican party would gain voters if they dropped the religion and legislating of morality. Abortion is a single issue vote for many people and they will not even consider voting for a republican as long as it is a part of their platform. Same with gay marriage. I view gay marriage as an equal rights issue and I cannot believe our government has the power to discriminate against a portion of the citizens. If I were gay, I could see this being a single issue vote for me. The republican party is losing voters on issues that are private matters that government should not be involved in. Take these off the table and people will have more reason to look deeper into the issues.

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Originally Posted by mountainjenny

The republican party would gain voters if they dropped the religion and legislating of morality. Abortion is a single issue vote for many people and they will not even consider voting for a republican as long as it is a part of their platform. Same with gay marriage. I view gay marriage as an equal rights issue and I cannot believe our government has the power to discriminate against a portion of the citizens. If I were gay, I could see this being a single issue vote for me. The republican party is losing voters on issues that are private matters that government should not be involved in. Take these off the table and people will have more reason to look deeper into the issues.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by mountainjenny

The republican party would gain voters if they dropped the religion and legislating of morality. Abortion is a single issue vote for many people and they will not even consider voting for a republican as long as it is a part of their platform. Same with gay marriage. I view gay marriage as an equal rights issue and I cannot believe our government has the power to discriminate against a portion of the citizens. If I were gay, I could see this being a single issue vote for me. The republican party is losing voters on issues that are private matters that government should not be involved in. Take these off the table and people will have more reason to look deeper into the issues.

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I agree.

I think homosexuality is a natural human condition, just like heterosexuality. The (R) needs to let it go and let them be. I don't see why homosexuals can't be wed either.

As to religion, there are 6.5 billion people on the planet and God made each one an individual. Each one of those individuals probably has a different idea of God even if they claim a religion. The only common religion I'm personally intolerant of is Islam, I don't care the the "submit or die" routine or Islam's utter intolerance of other beliefs.

Most abortions are murder. Abortion is also the law of the land. I'd love to see abortion made illegal except in specific cases. Abortion is one of those things that we have to make sure the timing is exactly correct to get it off the books, I don't see that time coming for a long while to come. As long as people think abortion is a form a birth control we won't be able to get rid of it.

There are a great many things the government shouldn't be involved in. Morality, finance, manufacturing, science, education, healthcare, and charity are just a few that come to mind.