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I am no lawyer but.....
The way I read that is that it is not in violation of the law but it protects the property owners right to say that you can not carry on their property.
So it wouldnt be a violation of that law (unless I missed or misread something) but it could be trespass or something of the sort.
I agree fully.....Quote:
Originally Posted by The1andOnlyKC
I didn't have time to get the info Marty posted. Sitting in my office, I have limitations.....
I agree w/ HunterCo that it's not illegal, what I am pointing out is that WE have to stick to the rules set on us for us to keep that little card in our wallet. I still haven't seen anything to the contrary.
I'm all out for protecting myself both by carrying and keeping within the law's bounds. The only reason I even posted on here is to bring that side of it into the picture. My ability to articulate that has become better as this post has gone on, it helps to have things thrown at you to think about and apply. I aplogise that I didn't make myself more clear at the start.
Greg
Hunterco I think section d means if you are an LEO or some other official who is on duty and required to carry.
Just because you can, will not exempt you from the law, in fact because it is posted you are in violation each time you pack into any federal building including a post office. Federal Law trumps State law, Like it or not that is the law, I am not up on Colorado State carry laws but generally anyplace that is posted is off limits, and usually has an extra fine to impose plus flaunting the law can make you unable to carry. Do not give the lefties any ammunition every time somone who is legal breaks the law it give them an argument against us all. What i have read of your carry laws state that a property owner or business can prohibit carry, that means if you knowingly enter a posted place you are in violation of the CO. CCW.
Sort of like a property owner posting a no hunting sign, that means no hunting even during season and even though you have all the permits.
You are wrong and to make my point show me any statue that supports anything you just said. I will give you a hint you can't because you are wrong sir. I have gone over this with several attorneys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie Mazza
I don't get how following the law is flaunting it but hey to each their own believe as you wish.
My advice is to educate yourself and contact the most famous gun law attorney in the nation James Bardwell he also happens to live and practice right here in CO. [wink]
Post offices weren't encluded in the list of fed buildings.
There is only a select few that are on that list. Been there done that on this one......
Unless you are served with a trespass ticket, the anoying little signs have nothing to do with the real carry law. Annoy the owner/bank president with the sign, get a trespass ticket and then you may have issues with our guidelines here in CO. It depends on how far the LEOs want to push it IMO. HunterCO and some of the other guys are much more up on this (not saying I haven't spent hours doing my homework).
On a side note.
I would reccomend you spend some time learning your new KS carry laws. I will happily join you in that arena, I work there on a monthly basis.....
I carry in banks, pose offices and pretty much anywhere but a courthouse, sherrif's office (personal parranoia) and school grounds. Denver Fed CTR is off limits too. Dang those crazy Geologists and Engineers shooting up the place.... LOL (Personal - inside joke)
The local post office here put up one of those signs, then were told by the local po-pos if they wanted it enforced, feel free to try and get a federal agent up here to enforce it. It's not their responsibility. :twisted: :P Karl. [roll]
+1 on what Mule said about KS I go back every year to visit family and pheasant hunt. I always disarm before crossing the boarder as of next year I may not have too anymore but I have no idea what KS carry laws are.
I know the hunting regs and how I can carry a long gun in a vehicle but have no clue about the new carry law.
I will do some research and see what I can find would like to know what places are off limits as well as any other regs that may differ from CO.
Kansas doesn't look too inviting.. time will tell...
http://www.packing.org/state/kansas/
7 that site is so outdated it is not even worth the time to look at it. KS went shall issue this year and it takes effect on 01/01/07.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7idl
I have found the bill and am reading it and I have to say the places off limits is never ending. They also unlike CO made it a crime to carry in any business that is posted.
KS shall issue law in short sucks big time might as well not even have passed it.
granted it's not the most current place, but it is a place to start (not to mention it's a far cry better than most other non-official places on the web.)Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterCO
And...just because KS is going to be 'shall issue' in '07 doesn't mean jack here in '06 and it doesn't mean the 'rules' posted on packing.org are incorrect either.