Colorado, crap place for bugging out to.

Sometimes, the less then hospitable places are the places you want to go to. When deer are pressured, where do they flee to? Not to a place thats cozy like a Hilton. Usually the thickest, nastiest places, that alone will deter people. Go high in altitude in the warm months, and go lower in the cooler months. Most people after a short bit will lose their drive and look for something easier.

I came from Louisiana. Population density is one thing, but the population density of "have nots" is another. Every small town has projects. The town I grew up in had a population of 2000, and had projects that you didn't want to be caught in after dark. Hell we called and reported someone selling drugs and the dispatch said "oh the corner of xxx and xxxx, they're always doing that there" No, they don't do anything about it. The land is flat, you're always in close proximity to trees or in danger of flooding, or of a hurricane, or having a crackhead break into your shed and steal your tools. And the good neighborhood is within 3 miles of shanty town.

The growing season is great down there, you can get 2 crops or more of vegetables. Water is only a problem when there's too much. The soil is fertile....but if you don't cut your grass it won't be long before you can't see past your doorstep.

Speaking of water, you can't dig in or you'll float out.

Disease can spread rapidly through humans and livestock via abundant water, and abundant insects

AC isn't just a luxury, older people down there die without it.

On the coast you can get all the food you need from the water and the super fertile land. And it can all be taken from you by a good storm.

Northern LA has an even higher concentration of "have nots"



Here you can drive several miles without even seeing a driveway. Terrain relief allows me to see cars coming from a mile away. Yes water can be a problem, but it can be planned for. Yes cold can be a problem, but you can build a fire. You can use solar heating panels. Population density is MUCH better, and population density of Have nots is exponentially better than that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jim

I have no hate for CO for bugging out. We would not have relocated here if that was the case.
All well and good, providing you are physically able to hump around the mtns.
If you think no one will be where you plan on settling down, think again. Desperate times breed desperate people. You assume there will be plentiful game, why is that, because no one else will venture to your 'safe" area? I wager there are an easy 100 people in CO if not 10 times that who say the same thing. Where i'm going no one else would even think of going. been there, done that.

---

because there is a lot of game in colorado, you just have to know where to look. the vast majority, a good 90%, of people have absolutely no ability to hunt or survive in the mountains. particularly in the winter. getting away from people would not be difficult at all.

Heck,It's a whole lot better here than out east in Bloomberg central-NY.
To get anywhere decent you have to go 4 or 5 hrs and that's still no guarentee the mobs wont end up there.
Here you have the mountains to weed the weak out and not some speedbumps like NY.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tmckay2

because there is a lot of game in colorado, you just have to know where to look. the vast majority, a good 90%, of people have absolutely no ability to hunt or survive in the mountains. particularly in the winter. getting away from people would not be difficult at all.

---

Im betting it would be damn thin within weeks. Talk to some of the old timers who survived the great depression.

My Grandfather told me that there was a time if someone found a deer track, people would come from miles to see it. He wasnt kidding.

Everyone & their brother will be beating the woods for food. Think it gets crowded [depending where you hunt] now, just wait. Unless you are going to pull a Jeremiah Johnson gl.
I have a spouse and a few others in the neighborhood i am committed to. Neighbor helping like minded neighbor.
Better defense in numbers, up to a point. There are a few places we have been offered to BO to, however being on the road after week 1 will not be pretty. Then again assessing the full extent of a meltdown w/out an eye in the sky is not a good option either. . I nor the spouse is humping to the hills with every other swinging dick. I'm standing my ground, at my age if there was a SHTF scenario better to die on my feet than live on my knees. YMMV of course.

Test time. Do a poll of the neighborhood, friends, who don't think like you do, john or jane q public. Ask them, if there was an emergency and they needed to move NOW, where would they go. I believe 60 % easy will say
"The Mountains? "

Traffic on a weekend sux going there now. You don't feel it will become one cluster if SHTF?

If SHTF, I'm going to need to learn to love Canada Geese, because I'll probably survive off of them for a while. And raccoons and squirrels.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Irving

If SHTF, I'm going to need to learn to love Canada Geese, because I'll probably survive off of them for a while. And raccoons and squirrels.

---

Squirrel is better than Possum. Never had Raccoon. [Flower]

I've heard you can starve to death eating squirrels because they don't have enough nutritional value. I have no idea if that is true though.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jerrymrc

Squirrel is better than Possum. Never had Raccoon. [Flower]

---

You're in luck, we have 1 maybe 2 racoons who still don't get the hint. Our dog does not like you, squirrels or other small game animals using the yard as a short cut. You cut through it sooner or later you will get caught, hopefully for vet bills, you'll wise up.