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Your analogy doesn't work. Joining the military to live under a different set of rules is a CHOICE. It's VOLUNTARY. No one made him, or forced him or coerced him to join the military. You know going in (for the most part) you'll have to do what you're told.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitewalrus
I wasn?t trying to say that OP should be ok with mandates, just wondering. As they have to take a lot of crap in the military that the civilian population would rarely or even never get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
And nobody makes anyone work for a business that will be required to have the vaccines. He can start his own business and then not implement the mandate.
Personally I am totally against any mandatory medical care. If you don?t want to get a vaccine, it should be your choice. It certainly isn?t the governments say of what you have to do. My body my choice only applies to abortions it seems.
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Wasn't trying to bust your balls. Just pointing out some differences.
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Don?t take this as advice but rather just me sharing my personal thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CS1983
As a husband and father of two, there isn?t anything I wouldn?t do or sacrifice to take care of my family and make things as easy and comfortable for them as possible.
While I feel this whole Covid thing and especially the push for everyone to get the vaccine is a bunch of garbage, if I had to choose between following my moral compass and being destitute or taking their stupid vaccine to maintain my family?s lifestyle I would take the shot and continue on with my life.
I wouldn?t be happy about it for damn sure but I also don?t think whatever they would inject me with would be any more or less harmful than the virus.
I guess what I?m saying is that I would take a bullet for my loved ones so taking some shot for them wouldn?t be the worst thing I could do.
Now, take the wife and kids out of the equation and everyone can go f**k themselves and I?ll live in a van down by the river and eat dog food to survive.
Good post. I think in truth, most would unfortunately follow this same path as well, they just wont own up to it. It's easy to act principled online, but principles are pretty hard to eat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
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Originally Posted by ray1970
Both good posts. The problem with this trend, is that they aren't just making one person in the family get a vaccine. I'm not worried about the vaccine on a personal level, more a societal level, but do I want my daughter to get what I feel is an unnecessary injection? Should I bankrupt our family and risk losing my family and custody of her when she'll eventually be made to get the vaccine anyway? I don't know. I don't like any of this, but the radical changes that need to happen aren't going to happen fast enough, and I'm not in a position to effect any changes to the situation. Reality is setting in and decisions are going to have to be made.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtArt
Do what you feel is best for you. The hell with everyone else feelings and opinions. If they're not paying your bills, medical care and everything else who gives a shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Like i told the guy next door, yesterday, again. Mind your own fukin business.
health. good health.
I don't care someone accumulated millions. if someone is on therapy which does not cover by insurance, that mills will turn in thousands in 4 years.
I remember with Provenge was not covered by major insurance and people had to cough up $90k+ / year (pre 2010 dollar).
The .gov/Powers-that-be know this and are exploiting that in every way they can. I think that most parents would absolutely choose this over having to put their children at risk of less than the best possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
A friend of mine is 3 years away from his 20yr mark in the .MIL and will likely face a dishonorable discharge for refusing to take this. He has a wife and kids, but he is planning on refusing it.
I didn't think the decline of the USA as it was intended would arrive this quickly, but it's for damn sure being accelerated and driven into the dirt...
I spent some time on the phone with a close friend who is a GP Doc, and he is suggesting that anyone that opts to get a jab choose the J&J or the NovaVax, as they are NOT mRNA based, which is what's being pushed so eff'ing hard (to the point that there is reasonable suspicion about exaggeration of side effects with the J&J to sway public opinion away from it).
For anyone reading who can afford it, now would be a great time to up the limits on your auto policy for uninsured/under insured motorist.