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    Have a neighbor who has liberal views but is also a hunter and gun owner and he told me a few nights ago he will absolutely not vote for any democrats in the next election. I honestly dont think he's a true liberal but he did vote for the current mess we have here at home and in Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhirsh5280 View Post
    Have a neighbor who has liberal views but is also a hunter and gun owner and he told me a few nights ago he will absolutely not vote for any democrats in the next election. I honestly dont think he's a true liberal but he did vote for the current mess we have here at home and in Washington.
    This is not as unusual as many on this forum would like to believe. Democrats do own guns and many hate what has happened. I think 2014 will be very interesting IF the right does not push ANYBODY away, we could have a repeat of 1994. They do of course have to put up a reasonable candidate though. Put up a "women like rape" or "can control pregnancy" buffoon and it will be their own foot they are shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    This is not as unusual as many on this forum would like to believe. Democrats do own guns and many hate what has happened. I think 2014 will be very interesting IF the right does not push ANYBODY away, we could have a repeat of 1994. They do of course have to put up a reasonable candidate though. Put up a "women like rape" or "can control pregnancy" buffoon and it will be their own foot they are shooting.
    I don't find it unusual at all. The thing I cannot fathom is that they can vote for socialism and continue to think they can keep their guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    They do of course have to put up a reasonable candidate though. Put up a "women like rape" or "can control pregnancy" buffoon and it will be their own foot they are shooting.
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.
    I disagree. Quite frankly, the squishiness is turning me off of them.

    Call me naive, but I wish that politicians would state unequivocally what they believe and stand by it, not just saying what they think will get them re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.
    YUP! If you continue to push religion into politics you're only going to isolate others who could potentially join your political party. Get the religious extremists and the racist people out and you might win over more people if you go back to being the party of Eisenhower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    YUP! If you continue to push religion into politics you're only going to isolate others who could potentially join your political party. Get the religious extremists and the racist people out and you might win over more people if you go back to being the party of Eisenhower.
    Interesting use of "...your political party."
    I take it you are not speaking of your own party here.

    I might share your views on 2A (doubt it), but that's as far as I go.
    How bout you concern yourself with your own party and stop trying to turn a somewhat "conservative" party into a bunch of Nancy boys.

    If the Republican party would grow a pair and tell it like it is, they would increase membership and participation.
    Republicans need to stop worrying about catering to the progressive queers and welfare scum and stand for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Interesting use of "...your political party."
    I take it you are not speaking of your own party here.

    I might share your views on 2A (doubt it), but that's as far as I go.
    How bout you concern yourself with your own party and stop trying to turn a somewhat "conservative" party into a bunch of Nancy boys.

    If the Republican party would grow a pair and tell it like it is, they would increase membership and participation.
    Republicans need to stop worrying about catering to the progressive queers and welfare scum and stand for something.
    If you're assuming I'm a democrat you're mistaken, they're just as idiotic as the hard right. You can keep ignoring the gay republicans in your party too and keep pounding that theocracy if you think that'll get things back into gear again while watching your beloved party falter. One CAN be a conservative and not a douche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    If you're assuming I'm a democrat you're mistaken, they're just as idiotic as the hard right. You can keep ignoring the gay republicans in your party too and keep pounding that theocracy if you think that'll get things back into gear again while watching your beloved party falter. One CAN be a conservative and not a douche.
    Amen! I agree... I almost want to ask davsel how that taking a hardline approach and further alienating potential supporters is working out so far? Look at '12, I think we (we as in conservatives) lost because either by the fault of reporting or the fault of those with microphones in their faces, I'm not going to point fingers, too many believed that the right wanted to take away their rights to choose what to do with their bodies, and tell women what to do. The issue is not so much abortion, many I've talked with (women who voted for Obama) say they don't really care about abortion, it's the fact that they have some old white men in D.C. trying to tell them what they can and can't do with their bodies. They obviously aren't very smart considering Bloomberg is doing that to EVERYONE in NYC... But regardless, my point is that the Republican Party shouldn't have even touched the subject. "How do you feel about abortion?" "Next question." We would be so much better off if they just let it be.
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