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    After putting 1000 rounds through a vp9 I came to realize it didn't do anything really better then my my glock 19 with a - connector

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim-adams View Post
    Thanks for the info, the FN's and Sig's I classified as (sexy but $$$$$)
    I also picked up a FN 5.7 and did not like the feel in my hand, pretty big, also the 5.7 is very expensive to feed $.40 + per round..
    You need to do a little more research on pricing. Several guns you assume are $$$$ are in the same price range as everything else your looking at.

    FNS and Sig p320 (the striker fired Sig) are all in the same price range as your original list (all guns suggested are pretty much within $100 of each other cheapest to most expensive) The FN 5.7 is Nothing like a FNS.
    Last edited by mtnrider; 10-23-2014 at 21:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    For the record, he only holds his arm like that so people won't notice his visor.
    full double jointed on the elbows, is my guess.. I agree the visor is a bit "much" wear a ball cap like the rest of us :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    You need to do a little more research on pricing. Several guns you assume are $$$$ are in the same price range as everything else your looking at.

    FNS and Sig p320 (the striker fired Sig) are all in the same price range as your original list (all guns suggested are pretty much within $100 of each other cheapest to most expensive) The FN 5.7 is Nothing like a FNS.
    I will check into those two I know FN and Sig make quality bang.. but this really is why I started this thread, I only know what I know, and I am getting great information..
    Everything from think about X to Y is great except you need to change Z


    the FNS at buds nicely priced... but 17 round mags... :-( @ buds 5" black with nightsites for 525 with 5" stainless slide for 586... mags are a bit much but not crazy $44

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...7%2B1+9mm+5%22

    the sig 320 5" 556 mags 38-40..

    I am having possible scope creep.. hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim-adams View Post
    the FNS at buds nicely priced... but 17 round mags... :-(
    Yeah, that is a bit of an issue. Same thing for the M&P, XDm's, Sig P320 (full size versions) :-(

    I have not actually handled a Sig 320 yet, it's on my list to fondle :-) If it's anything size wise like the other Sig pistols it's probably not going to fit my hand very well. They tend to be better suited for larger hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    Yeah, that is a bit of an issue. Same thing for the M&P, XDm's, Sig P320 (full size versions) :-(

    I have not actually handled a Sig 320 yet, it's on my list to fondle :-) If it's anything size wise like the other Sig pistols it's probably not going to fit my hand very well. They tend to be better suited for larger hands.
    the sig comment meets some of my experiences as well.
    I think I will go down to cabala's(maybe bass pro) I expect they will have all these guns to hold and that should allow me to narrow my scope.

    I am developing a concern over the FNS-9 about the trigger sucking, and nothing exists (other than $175 gunsmith fee) to fix it.
    extreme take-up and large resets are not something I want to move into.

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    See what works for you. I am particularly fond of the M&P series but the XD-S is a nice strike-fired analog to the 1911.

    At this point in time, my list in order of preference is:
    1. M&P Shield 9
    2. M&P Shield 40
    3. M&P 9c
    4. XD-S 9
    5. 1911

    The M&P Shield line is crazy affordable. I wish I'd ordered some spare mags when MidwayUSA had them for $26.66 each a couple months ago; now you're looking at $31-33 a piece for spare mags.

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    M&P Shield is next on my "to buy" list for sure.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    I'm slightly more excited about the S&W Shield now that they make one without the silly thumb safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim-adams View Post
    Looking for a new "full size" 9mm pistol trying to stay at the 15 round cap for ease of ownership.

    I am considering
    price
    available accessories (custom kydex is not cheap)
    upgrade parts (threaded barrel? extended and ported? better trigger?
    reliability/name

    kind of down to the following guns:
    XDm full size (I do like my XDm, but not as much holster support as i would like) mags = $28 (base mag is 19, so issue here)
    $620 with three mags that I lose. :-( trijicon HD $165 (have to find 15 round mag's for it)
    G19 (lots of glock lovers, but all the ones I fire the trigger feels like crude) mags=$22 can you fix/tweak the trigger?
    $550 with 2 mags. +4 mags $90 + trigger $25 +trijicon HD $165 g17 comes with 17 round mags soo blahhh
    PPQ m2 (the buzz is loud, for comfort, and trigger) I expect accessories to be nonexistent, mags = $30 held one and it was wow nice in my hand, never fired..
    $600 with 2 mags +4 mags $120 trijicon HD $165

    HK vp9
    $600 with 2 mags +4 mags $200

    also thought about these but zero trigger time with them
    S&W M&P held one,a nd it felt good
    CZ-75/85 never even held one..
    I've got a G19, XDm 4.5" and 3.8", PPQ M2, and XDs. Sold my M&P.

    Willing to meet locally if you want to test fire, just PM me. Hands down, the best factory trigger i have is on the PPQ M2. I've got the Springer Precision trigger in my XDm and that is my Production class gun. I shot the PPQ in Production previously. The PPQ is phenomenal, but I'd be hard pressed to say which is better when considering the XDm and PPQ. Of my group, G19 would be first to go (and it has a bit of trigger work as well).

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