Well, I've decided I'm ordering two of these, one for me and one for the wife. I've been shooting my whole life, taken the AZ permit course (which includes "training" 7 shots out of 10 in the "kill zone") and have shot a few competitions here and there. I know I don't need anymore classroom training and I don't need the "firearms training" you get at most CCW classes. My main goal in getting my CO CCW in cost effective manner. I'll let you guys know how it goes.