Greenland!

[Aloha_Shooter]

The Chinese and Russians (as well as some Europeans) have been trying to terminate the dollar as global currency for years.

I don't see the point of poking the Danes in the eye over Greenland but it has great strategic value both for geography and mineral resources. I had heard recent Chinese overtures to the Danes coupled with some myopia on their part may be at least partially responsible for this interest in taking direct control of Greenland rather than leaving it up to friendly relations with them. I don't know enough to judge either way.

[theGinsue]

Very true, unfortunately. And Ginsue, that was fairly obvious sarcasm, I thought. The turn away from Europe and towards Russia (slightly) and the Middle East (a lot) is, however, quite crazy.

We are terminating the dollar as the global currency in the near future.

My apologies - I missed the sarcasm.


Unless Europe (all nations) do something drastic very soon, I feel Europe will be irretrievably lost. Their liberal immigration policies have allowed their nations to be consumer by their immigrants who essentially run things now.

While I don't trust Russia, I actually think they're not as bad as they're being made out to be. Now, Putin is an absolute nutter and while he remains in charge, I think we need to stay far away from them. If he gets replaced by someone more moderate, I think we could regain a decent relationship with Russia.

As Aloha stated, the push to remove the dollar as the global currency has been going on for decades, but they're getting closer everyday - especially with the big push in Europe to go to a digital system (Digital ID + non-U.S. global $). I believe that this will fully become the reality within the next 5-10 years. Europeans are tired of taking direction from the United States but are too weak individually to stand on their own. Using the EU where they are a united entity gives them the strength to push the U.S. away. What Europeans fail to realize is that they're all but giving up their sovereignty and individualism by being members of the EU. Plus, the folks running the EU are a bunch of jack-wagons whose policies are poorly thought through and have negative repercussions in the long term. In the end, regardless of who is running our country, they'd better be prepared to stand along in the world and ensure we have something of value to offer for trade beyond providing "services" as we've even been outsourcing a lot of that (India/Pakistan/Philippines) for years.

[TEAMRICO]

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I’m ok with that.

[Hummer]

Trump's bloviating about a takeover of Greenland is very damaging, alienating our NATO allies. Greenland is of real importance to the U.S. in controlling future trade routes as well as in any hot conflict with Russia. If it's important enough, why wouldn't the U.S. simply buy Greenland from Denmark? The gross national product of Greenland is around $4 Billion, and the GNP of Denmark is ~$450 billion. Wouldn't a friendly private offering of say, one or two trillion dollars plus investment considerations be the better approach for president dealmaker?

[rfenster]

Trump's bloviating about a takeover of Greenland is very damaging, alienating our NATO allies. Greenland is of real importance to the U.S. in controlling future trade routes as well as in any hot conflict with Russia. If it's important enough, why wouldn't the U.S. simply buy Greenland from Denmark? The gross national product of Greenland is around $4 Billion, and the GNP of Denmark is ~$450 billion. Wouldn't a friendly private offering of say, one or two trillion dollars plus investment considerations be the better approach for president dealmaker?

If he really does want Greenland, and I'm not sure that he does, then that is likely his plan.

The President bloviates about stuff. Makes wild claims about possible terrible offers or horrible actions. Then when the rubber meets the road he offers something that is way below market value, but WAY above the terrible offer or horrible action.

Then the other side takes his offer and everyone is happy.

Art of the deal.

[crashdown]

hoping we make it a US territory


so I can go hunt Musk Ox without needing a passport

Should I tell him?

[Aloha_Shooter]

Trump's bloviating about a takeover of Greenland is very damaging, alienating our NATO allies. Greenland is of real importance to the U.S. in controlling future trade routes as well as in any hot conflict with Russia. If it's important enough, why wouldn't the U.S. simply buy Greenland from Denmark? The gross national product of Greenland is around $4 Billion, and the GNP of Denmark is ~$450 billion. Wouldn't a friendly private offering of say, one or two trillion dollars plus investment considerations be the better approach for president dealmaker?

As Ben Shapiro said during Trump 1.0, Trump says a lot of shit. Sometimes some of it even comes true or matches reality. It's still better than the alternatives we've been presented for the last 15-20 years.

[theGinsue]

It's still better than the alternatives we've been presented for the last 15-20 years.

And IMHO, THIS, this is what it all comes down to. Whether from the left, the right or independents, love him, or hate him, we haven't been given any alternative better that what we've got in office right now.

[flogger]

Not that it has anything to do with Trump, but that whole Greenland/Inuit/IUD/birth control scandal back in the 60's & 70's was unusual. I doubt it could happen today.

[Clint45]

Supposedly, having a military base in Greenland would be a "game changer" tactically... and if we do not put one there soon, China or Russia will. Do not know if that is true, and it would suck to be stationed there when the temperature drops to fifty below.

Most likely this is merely a distraction from something else.