No colored pmags available until after CO deadline

[R2Chief2]

Believe it or not, I picked up 4 FDE gen2 Pmags at Sportsman's Warehouse just last week.

I thought I was seeing an illusion!

[Great-Kazoo]

That WAS the situation is in California. You can replace every single part of your old magazine with new parts and it is still legally your old magazine. To be legal you have to do the replacement in stages, so if zero parts were interchangeable between magazines it wouldn't work. But say you had a preban USGI magazine. You could take it apart, keep the spring, and then rebuild the magazine around that spring with a PMAG body, follower, and baseplate. You could then rebuild that magazine by putting the PMAG spring into it. You end up with a 100% new PMAG magazine in a configuration that didn't exist before the ban, that is legally considered preban.

A big difference between California and Colorado is that they have the CalGuns Foundation and we have nothing remotely similar. CGF isn't really a lobbying organization like RMGO, they are more of a legal advocacy group for the right to bear arms. CGF has been behind forcing courts and the DOJ to clarify what exactly the law means, and then advising the California gun community how they can fully exercise their rights and stay within the law. CGF also makes a sort of "implied promise" that if someone follows CGF recommendations and still ends up being prosecuted for breaking the law, then CGF will step forward for their legal defense. Once CGF says something is within the law they will aggressively fight to stop precedent being set anywhere to the contrary in the state.

CGF doesn't take on everything and they make it clear what their limits are. For example, "open carry" is technically legal in California but CGF doesn't get involved there. It is an area of the law where they don't want to spend their money and time.

It is largely due to CGF that Californians are able to have AR-15s at all, and largely due to CGF that things like off-list lowers, monsterman grips, bullet buttons, and magazine rebuilds have been figured out. all this just changed this week

Like I wrote, Colorado has nothing that remotely resembles CGF.

See my rewrites. CA just took one of the last steps over the lemming highway.

That assumes that people can think outside the box. That thinking is outdated.

Whuch is one reason why there has been so much Panic Buying. Failure to plan and understand what has been at stake for a few decades. Failure to adapt when what you want is not an option, failure to as you said, "Think outside the Box"
Board members here and elsewhere, have no problem kryloning a $2K AR because they wanted a FDE, it's a 6 month waiT and THEY WANT IT NOW! . Suggest the same folks drop $4.99 and paint theIr MAGS and folks have a melt down. SPRAY PAINT MAGPUL MAGAZINES, R U NUTZ ? ? ? ? ?

As Mr. Ford said in the last century, Any color as long as it's BLACK

[Richard K]

Magpul magazines are date stamped and this was the specific brand of magazine the OP posted about. When the magazine in your possession is stamped 08/13 you'd better have an attorney on retainer.

I just received 20 round Pmags in FDE from Brownell's and I don't see a date stamp on them just a clock like stamp that I don't know how to decifer.

[dirtrulz]

That would be the manufacture date. The number in center is the year and the hand of the clock is pointing at the month.

[Richard K]

That would be the manufacture date. The number in center is the year and the hand of the clock is pointing at the month.

Thanks for the clarification!

[KLR650]

That is exactly what the situation is in California. You can replace every single part of your old magazine with new parts and it is still legally your old magazine. To be legal you have to do the replacement in stages, so if zero parts were interchangeable between magazines it wouldn't work. But say you had a preban USGI magazine. You could take it apart, keep the spring, and then rebuild the magazine around that spring with a PMAG body, follower, and baseplate. You could then rebuild that magazine by putting the PMAG spring into it. You end up with a 100% new PMAG magazine in a configuration that didn't exist before the ban, that is legally considered preban.

A big difference between California and Colorado is that they have the CalGuns Foundation and we have nothing remotely similar. CGF isn't really a lobbying organization like RMGO, they are more of a legal advocacy group for the right to bear arms. CGF has been behind forcing courts and the DOJ to clarify what exactly the law means, and then advising the California gun community how they can fully exercise their rights and stay within the law. CGF also makes a sort of "implied promise" that if someone follows CGF recommendations and still ends up being prosecuted for breaking the law, then CGF will step forward for their legal defense. Once CGF says something is within the law they will aggressively fight to stop precedent being set anywhere to the contrary in the state.

CGF doesn't take on everything and they make it clear what their limits are. For example, "open carry" is technically legal in California but CGF doesn't get involved there. It is an area of the law where they don't want to spend their money and time.

It is largely due to CGF that Californians are able to have AR-15s at all, and largely due to CGF that things like off-list lowers, monsterman grips, bullet buttons, and magazine rebuilds have been figured out.

Like I wrote, Colorado has nothing that remotely resembles CGF.

not to nickpick, but just an FYI, Open carry of a sidearm was recently prohibited in CA. I agree with you CGF is awesome they defended an inlaw of mine pro bono. got him some cash too.