WHAC Range no more! :(

[MarkCO]

Yep I feel the same way, with the wife and kids it is hard to go shooting and with an additional 3 hr's (round trip) I don't know how offten I would be able to make it out there.

Take the wife and kids with you. You can sing 100 bottles of beer on the wall at least a dozen times.

[DireWolf]

The closing of any range is a sad event, but that being said, I've got a mini-rant that I need to get off my chest here regarding ranges in general.

As time goes on, I've been getting more frustrated with the available ranges and all of the rules, and after renewing my CRC membership earlier this year and re-reading the existing/updated range rules, decided that at least for me, going to the range just doesn't make sense anymore, particularly since the drive time to Pawnee/mountains is the same as the drive time to CRC (from thornton).

Now, I understand that we all want a safe experience and that's what the rules are there for, but excessive seems to be the name of the game lately, and it really comes down to this: If I want to do some (very) basic paper/steel punching (completely stationary), the range (any range) is good. Otherwise, no-joy. Tactical shooting drills/shooting & moving/rapid draw/unorthodox techniques - all forbidden....I get the no tracer due to fire hazard issue, but when the rules explicitly prohibit drawing from holster, having any type of movement involved, unothodox firing techniques, etc., then what the hell is the point? Particularly when you factor in the dues and other costs....

[MarkCO]

DireWolf, in direct response, there are prohibitions because people are idiots, even some shooters.

That said, I am almost done with a "check-out" for CRC that will allow members to demonstrate competence and responsibility and then be allowed more freedom on the East ranges. Basically, if you can be safe, underatand safe target presentations and have another person who can get help in the worst case situation, you will be cleared.

[DireWolf]

DireWolf, in direct response, there are prohibitions because people are idiots, even some shooters.

That said, I am almost done with a "check-out" for CRC that will allow members to demonstrate competence and responsibility and then be allowed more freedom on the East ranges. Basically, if you can be safe, underatand safe target presentations and have another person who can get help in the worst case situation, you will be cleared.

Mark,

That would be fantastic. I agree that you have to plan around the least-common-denominator of idiot, but the idea of getting pre-cleared to practice more advanced techniques without having to worry about getting blacklisted from the range is a very welcome thought...particuarly since one of the things I really like about the east range is the protection from the potential idiot one stall/position over.

Please let me know when that program becomes available...


P.S. - Sorry for the mini-hijacking of this thread.....


Thanks

[DeusExMachina]

Excuse me, are you telling me my friends and I are basically no longer allowed to practice at CRC?

[MarkCO]

Excuse me, are you telling me my friends and I are basically no longer allowed to practice at CRC?

Yes, not until you get cleared. I am working to make it as painless as possible.

[DeusExMachina]

How about that I've been a member for two years and an active IDPA shooter? Fuck, I'll put a chain on my 8th place plaque from states last year.

Good thing the range is nearly empty, all the time.

If they're going to make such a drastic change to the rules, you'd think they'd let people know. Like in my membership renewal, or the website. I guess I'll continue to be oblivious.

Edit: Sorry, but I'm really fucking livid right now.

[MarkCO]

Edit: Sorry, but I'm really fucking livid right now.

Seriously, don't be. I did not like it, so I talked to them and others had as well. My draft is EASY for any who competes to get cleared. It is basic safety stuff. Once cleared, you will have freedom to practice and train. The BOD actually has it in their hands now and it should be a few weeks at most and we will be good to go.

I don't think they really had a choice. I am not going into what some morons did, but the pendulum swung a tad far the wrong way and it is going to get re-centered.

[DireWolf]

will there be a 2-person requirement as you had hinted at earlier? If so, I think that may be a bit counter-productive....As I had mentioned, I'm all for safety and whatnot, but am usually flying solo (as I would imagine many are), and if something bad were to happen, I can pretty much guarantee that even alone at the range, help would be a lot more likely to find me than out in the middle-of-nowhere places that I usually find myself...

[MarkCO]

will there be a 2-person requirement as you had hinted at earlier?

For long-gun, most likely yes. For pistol...not sure yet.