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    Great read and good info on all the other posts as well. I think tha same happened to me with AR type rifles. I just bought into the hype. I'm an AK guy and just had to get an AR type rifle after reading all the "hype". Don't get me wrong I still think they are badass rifles and can respect what they do i.e. accuracy etc. I am just more comfortable with an AK and like what an AK has to offer over the AR even if it's not the most accurate rifle.

    I have been thinking about trying a glock in .45 or 9mm. The 30 rnd. mags make it even sweeter.

    Thanks again for all the usefull first hand experience and info gentlemen.


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    I want to hit a few points that came to my head when reading the original post. However now much of them have already been covered. So this now is more reaffirming some of the opinions.

    • I don't like the way glocks feel in my hands in 2 ways. For these 2 reasons, I prefer my Sig. I can draw with my eyes closed (not that I would ever do this in real life) and when I open my eyes I am on roughly on target. Thus I believe that my posture and muscle memory will kick in when I am in a stressful situation and cannot rely on fine motor skills. Therefore this is the safer carry choice for me.
      • Top heavy, unbalanced feel
      • with my draw, my hands, and posture, the sights naturally not pointing on target.
    • I have always preferred 9mm over some of the higher calibers for the following reasons
      • Shot placement is more important.
      • 9mm is nato in a SHTF day. and i want to be able to pick up other peoples ammo.
      • 9mm is more readily available these days. This wasn't always the case thus this is a more recent advantage.
      • lastly 9mm is cheaper. Cheaper means a few things. Cheaper means I can shoot more. Which means I enjoy the hobby more. It also means I practice more. It also means I am a better shot that some of my friends because I do practice more.
    I think I hit all the points in my head but i may have missed one or two.

    So to summarize; 9mm is just as good as any. and choice of weapon should always include minimumlly these to factors; reliablity for when you need it, and comfort/fit/feel to the user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey View Post
    . I shot them all the same from the 380 through the 10mm or 45acp.
    Where did you get ahold of a G25/28?

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    I cannot disagree with your conclusion or the validity of your information, but I take a little different view on the matter. Pick a high quality pistol that fits you and shoot the piss out if it till you shoot it like an extension of your body. Don't go below 9mm in caliber and don't go over 45 ACP unless it's a pistol for specialized use. Any high quality pistol will get you there, and Glock does qualify as high quality IMO. If you can put 10,000+ rounds through it without mechanical failure or multiple FTFs or FTEs it quality is good enough.

    The key is shooting the piss out if it. I can give you the most pointable, reliable, and shootable pistol in the world, but if you are not practicing it might as well be a saturday night special. Practice is NOT standing at 7 feet slow shooting 50 rounds and then going home. Practice is drawing, shooting multiple rounds on multiple targets, moving, and reloading, and all under stress.

    I have to throw this last piece in too. I have a friend who is a thorasic surgen. He has operated on way more shooting victims than I've ever seen. When he says 9mm will do it, but 45's make a mess out of the human body, I listen. Shoot what you shoot accurately first. Placement is key, but if you can shoot the 45 just as accurately, it never hurts to hedge your bets.
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    Good read. As I used to tell academy recruits who were having difficulty with a .40, "I'd rather hit 'em with a 9 than miss 'em with a 40".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    The key is shooting the piss out if it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Practice is NOT standing at 7 feet slow shooting 50 rounds and then going home. Practice is drawing, shooting multiple rounds on multiple targets, moving, and reloading, and all under stress.
    Exactly, which is why I have a hard time paying to go to Firing line or other ranges now adays. I have spent enough initial time at them to build a a decent foundation to make my time at open ranges more valuable to me doing things like draw and rapid fire and rapid multiple targets, etc. I do still like hitting the firing line and such occasional to at least maintain or brush up on basic skills when I have had long gaps between any range type of shooting though.

    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Shoot what you shoot accurately first. Placement is key, but if you can shoot the 45 just as accurately, it never hurts to hedge your bets.
    I couldn't agree more. If you can afford .45, practice with .45. I guess my tips were more for hitting the mind of those that I have seen on the bored that they can't or don't want to afford expensive ranges, can't afford a lot of ammo to practice etc etc etc..... So at least they get some valuable tips for an option that fits their lifestyle.

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    I can attest to everything said by the OP.

    I am a die hard 1911 fan. I have a Springfield EMP I carry off duty and just ordered a Springfield Custom shop PC9111LR based duty gun.

    Both are 9mm.

    My Glock collection includes a G34, G26 and G19 in addition to my wifes G35/G23.

    I went through firearms instructor and multiple SWAT/active shooter schools with my Storm Lake barreled/stippled/ATS sighted G34.

    I carry it on duty every day. I trust not only my life, but another 200,000 peoples lives to it everyday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cochese View Post
    I can attest to everything said by the OP.
    Help me out... What is OP?

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    What lunch box said. ^^^

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