Why do you need medical skills and tools?

[cmailliard]

Yeah it's graphic.

Why do you need to train with them and not just have them? You think muscle memory might be important at a time like this? How much time do you have?
Students in class on Saturday found out how important the location of the tear tabs are on the Pressure Dressing and Gauze. When opening S-Rolled Gauze from North American Rescue how do you open the inner pack? Muscle memory is not just for your gun, you need to practice these medical skills. They are more likely to save a life than your 5000 rounds of 5.56.

Stay Safe

[hunterhawk]

That just makes me angry... WTF! And your post is not really accurate.. It's not like he is just going to be carrying that on him and patch himself up.. And even if he did have it on him.... I doubt they would have let him...

[DingleBerns]

That just makes me angry... WTF! And your post is not really accurate.. It's not like he is just going to be carrying that on him and patch himself up.. And even if he did have it on him.... I doubt they would have let him...

i don't think the post is about whether the guy should of had medical stuff on him. My guess is the OP is trying to help people see how fast you can bleed out and die if nothing is done.

[cmailliard]

Yeah I am not talking about the guy in the video, as Dingle said, it is to demonstrate how quickly you can die, more importantly how quickly you can no longer help yourself due to lack of oxygen secondary to massive blood loss. It does not matter how it happens the wound pattern from a 5.56, .308, or 9mm is the same in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, or Colorado. Stay Safe.

[rbeau30]

This is why my EDC is clearly marked on the blow out pocket with a large red cross. Like cmaillard said, you can quickly become unable to help yourself.

[hunterhawk]

Ah well yes that makes more sense... But man this video pisses me off I can't even say what I want to and I don't even know why he was shot...

[Sawin]

Ah well yes that makes more sense... But man this video pisses me off I can't even say what I want to and I don't even know why he was shot...

agreed

[cofi]

Yeah I am not talking about the guy in the video, as Dingle said, it is to demonstrate how quickly you can die, more importantly how quickly you can no longer help yourself due to lack of oxygen secondary to massive blood loss. It does not matter how it happens the wound pattern from a 5.56, .308, or 9mm is the same in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, or Colorado. Stay Safe.

so would a quickly applied tourniqite saved that guy or was that going to be fatal no matter what?

[cmailliard]

so would a quickly applied tourniqite saved that guy or was that going to be fatal no matter what?

Hard to tell but with two shots fired and bleeding from the arm and leg with the fatal wound most likely being the leg, yes a quickly applied TQ most likely would have saved a life. When we look at the three leading causes of Preventable Deaths on Battlefield, Extremity Hemorrhage is #1, this is the reason why. This is why the 180 degree shift in thinking about tourniquets, that $30 piece of velcro and plastic is saving more lives on the battlefield than almost anything else. It does not have to be a GSW though, it can be a knife or other form of penetrating trauma that cuts the artery.

[Sawin]

The other thing to consider is the location of and medical resources near the incident. In the case of the man in the video, may he rest in peace, a tourniquet might have simply lengthened his suffering. Do you think there was a capable doctor and donor blood in his general vicinity, 15 minutes away ?