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    The "Godfather" of COAR Great-Kazoo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    "J" gave the correct answer to your question.


    Go to Walmart and try to buy some .22LR (if you can find some...another issue , though).
    The clerk will ask you "Is this for a Rifle or Pistol"?
    If you answer "Pistol" you leave with NO ammo.
    If you answer "Rifle" you show your ID, pay the money , and go home with a box of ammo.

    I don't know what comes up on the register if you ask for .357 ammo.
    If it is still "Rifle of Pistol" and the clerk is not knowledgeable, you can probably leave Walmart with ammo if you answer "Rifle"
    ...but I don't know if by lying whether you have committed a crime or not. (Again, "J"...a little help here, please ?)
    There are a few companies that make 38/357, 45 AND 9mm carbines, lever and bolt action long guns. All you do is tell them it's for a long gun / rifle IF asked. Nothing more or less. If the clerk will not sell it, ask for manager or walk away, locate another store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    There are a few companies that make 38/357, 45 AND 9mm carbines, lever and bolt action long guns. All you do is tell them it's for a long gun / rifle IF asked. Nothing more or less. If the clerk will not sell it, ask for manager or walk away, locate another store.
    If you LIE and say it is for a rifle, and you intend to use it for a handgun, has a law been broken? If so, which one ? (Not being sarcastic...I'd just like to know the answer and why)

    The above was meant to be an 'example' of asking for a handgun-only ammo.

    Let me correct the example, to make it easier for all to understand the intended point...

    I don't know what comes up on the register if you ask for <insert your favorite handgun-only caliber here> ammo.
    If it is still "Rifle or Pistol" and the clerk is not knowledgeable, you can probably leave Walmart (or your seller of choice) with ammo if you answer "Rifle" and you actually intend to use it for a handgun.
    I have no idea if the stores have coded the register question to the level of detail needed to distinguish a handgun-only caliber of ammo...
    ...but I also don't know if by intentionally lying whether you have committed a crime or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    If you LIE and say it is for a rifle, and you intend to use it for a handgun, has a law been broken? If so, which one ? (Not being sarcastic...I'd just like to know the answer and why)

    The above was meant to be an 'example' of asking for a handgun-only ammo.

    Let me correct the example, to make it easier for all to understand the intended point...
    Sorry not able to answer original question. I'd equate your question to that of the masgazine law. One purchased in wyo X mags. The LE who chooses to look at your mags, has no clue where or when they were purchased. What does he / she do, besides walk away?

    Question for you. How does / will anyone know what the end use of said ammo will be? Our daughter would buy ammo for our guns if she was where ammo was sold. The one time she was asked what the ammo was used in , she said rifle. That was it, paid for and left store.
    I think (key word) you are over thinking the whole deal. A SMART shooter who is under X age should be accompanied by someone over 18 -21 when shooting a firearm, most LE's do not realize is legal to be in possession of. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    If you LIE and say it is for a rifle, and you intend to use it for a handgun, has a law been broken? If so, which one ? (Not being sarcastic...I'd just like to know the answer and why)
    Best answer I found on this was from the ATF website (REF: Here)
    Q: May a licensee sell interchangeable ammunition such as .22 cal. rimfire to a person less than 21 years old?

    Yes, provided the buyer is 18 years of age or older, and the dealer is satisfied that it is for use in a rifle. If the ammunition is intended for use in a handgun, the 21-year-old minimum age requirement is applicable.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 478.99(b)]
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    >>...and the dealer is satisfied that it is for use in a rifle.

    Reality check: And because there's no definition on how to do that, it opens the dealer up to a suit if it was used in a handgun for illegal purposes. Result: Many dealers won't sell to anyone under 21...

    I hate laws written like that (read the person's mind and act accordingly).

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