Colorado form 1 & 4 transfer data / wait times

[tmckay2]

Yes. What I can't answer is if the transfer has to go through a dealer or not and/or what kind of background checks might have to happen to fulfill Colorado law.

O2

I dont think it needs to because it was a pre-made sbr that was directly transferred to my llc via atf form so I don't think the stste even really knows about it per se. That could be a different scenario if I was transferring it to myself vs my trust though perhaps. I could be wrong though.

[O2HeN2]

IANAL, but here's the [awful] process I think you need to go through to now do a transfer from yourself, or an LLC to a trust. This is based upon my reading the CRS, section 18-12-112. What you do personally is up to you.

Doesn't matter if it's a pre-made SBR, it's a firearm transfer in the state's eyes. As a firearm, any transfer must go through a licensed dealer in order to get a background check done (correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe it "must be on their books" for them to do a BGC for a transfer - you might have some wiggle room in the phrase "as if" that I highlighted in red, below). Also, a BGC must be performed for EVERYONE named in the trust (see the section in blue - "Not a natural person" is an LLC or a trust.

Because it must be transferred to the dealer, that's your first $200. Then they do a BGC on everyone in the trust, and then it gets transferred to you. That's another $200. At least each transfer doesn't take 18 months like in the old days, but that's a small victory after spending $400 to transfer something to yourself.

My biggest worry is if you do the transfer only via the ATF, you have provided in exquisite detail all the documentation needed for the state to prosecute you for an illegal firearm transfer. Open and shut.

...since you're asking for information, there it is. Don't shoot the messenger.

Applicable text from 18-12-112:

(1)

(a) On and after July 1, 2013, except as described in subsection (6) of this section, before any person who is not a licensed gun dealer, as defined in section 18-12-506 (6), transfers or attempts to transfer possession of a firearm to a transferee, he or she shall:
(I) Require that a background check, in accordance with section 24-33.5-424, C.R.S., be conducted of the prospective transferee; and
(II) Obtain approval of a transfer from the bureau after a background check has been requested by a licensed gun dealer, in accordance with section 24-33.5-424, C.R.S.
(b) As used in this section, unless the context requires otherwise, ?transferee? means a person who desires to receive or acquire a firearm from a transferor. If a transferee is not a natural person, then each natural person who is authorized by the transferee to possess the firearm after the transfer shall undergo a background check, as described in paragraph (a) of this subsection (1), before taking possession of the firearm.

(2)

(a) A prospective firearm transferor who is not a licensed gun dealer shall arrange for a licensed gun dealer to obtain the background check required by this section.
(b) A licensed gun dealer who obtains a background check on a prospective transferee shall record the transfer, as provided in section 18-12-402, and retain the records, as provided in section 18-12-403, in the same manner as when conducting a sale, rental, or exchange at retail. The licensed gun dealer shall comply with all state and federal laws, including 18 U.S.C. sec. 922, as if he or she were transferring the firearm from his or her inventory to the prospective transferee.
(c) A licensed gun dealer who obtains a background check for a prospective firearm transferor pursuant to this section shall provide the firearm transferor and transferee a copy of the results of the background check, including the bureau?s approval or disapproval of the transfer.
(d) A licensed gun dealer may charge a fee for services rendered pursuant to this section, which fee shall not exceed ten dollars.

[OneGuy67]

Got my individual Form 4 back in three days this week. Man, it took sooo long this time. I'm used to a one day turnover. Those ATF slackers!

[TEAMRICO]

Submitted a form 4 for a JK Armament CCX 9mm April 23rd. Done using the Silencer Shop Kiosk.
Received approval today.

Also submitted a Form 1 for an Uzi SBR June 1st. I will update when approved. I submitted on the SS website using the Form 1/4 service. Pretty easy actually. Worth the fee IMO.
Reviewed and submitted with in a day.

[TEAMRICO]

First Form 1 hiccup.
Was advised that it was DISAPPROVED.

Reason was that I mistakenly put the maker of the receiver down as the manufacturer.
In contact with Silencer Shop to resolve this.
The notes stated to resubmit and a refund was in the process. I assume it’s the Tax Stamp. I don’t know how this works out.
I will resubmit once I get guidance from SS.

[TEAMRICO]

Received an email from Silencer Shop stating they have reviewed and made the corrections. Next step is I will get an email to recertify the form and they will send it back to the ATF.

[TEAMRICO]

SS sent me an email stating they corrected the issue, resubmitted the forms and all I had to to was go back and certify the forms on the ATF E forms website! All is good and the wait begins again!

[TEAMRICO]

APPROVED!!!!
Received the Approved Form 1 a few minutes ago!

[electronman1729]

Form 1
Individual
SBR Sig MCX

Submitted 06/26/2025
Approved 06/30/2025

[TEAMRICO]

SBR Form 1 submitted yesterday 1 July for a SW760 9mm tube gun.

Certified with ATF E FORMS today.
All done using Silencer Shop services.