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    Quote Originally Posted by spleify View Post
    Not exactly, but thanks for trying to explain my position......if we are going to open it up to conversation, I was referring to you. Mark is trying to help out here so I am not really sure why you are arguing with him. I guess I will leave it at, "if you dont like the rules they have in place or you are not pleased with the way they run things you can always cancel your membership''.

    And like I mentioned earlier, at least Mark is being gracious enough to offer us an alternative. I'm sure it would just be easier for him to not qualify anyone....you know for free, on his own time and out of the kindness of his own heart.
    Which is where the problem lies. He shouldn't have to do that, because it shouldn't be a requirement.

    The only comment that wasn't civil was the insult that the only way to get my attention would be if the notice offered free ammo.

    I think it's fair to disagree that an unnecessary rule, that wasn't covered in orientation and is only mentioned in one spot with vague wording and has only been posted at the range in the last several months, is suddenly resolved because one person has mentioned it a handful of times on an Internet forum (that a small percentage of CRC members visit) that they can be exempted from the rule. It's not even reasonable to exclude the non-COAR member base from this ability under threat of club expulsion.

    One or several things need to happen:

    1) Remove the rule from the book.

    OR

    2) Allow more than one single person to permit members to "quick draw".

    AND

    3) Inform the entire member base that this is a rule and that many many people are breaking it, but can be exempted and how.

    AND

    4) Organize specific times/days that large groups of members may attend to become exempted from this rule.

    The absolute easiest thing would be for #1 to happen, then no one needs to bother Mark (without the offer of free ammo).

    How do you know that this whole thing is a problem? I've been shooting in berms next to ROs of action shooting sports, talked with them, even shot with them a bit and they never ever hinted at being aware of what we were all doing was against club rules. This was well before Mark so graciously offered to approve the use of the berms for which they were intended, so none of us were in the very elite 5.
    Last edited by DeusExMachina; 12-03-2013 at 12:29.
    Keep Calm and Carry.

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