CRC Proposal for new range/ban of steel on HP range

[rustycrusty]

I am onboard with getting the new range going. More is good.

I will also give a +1 to the growing 'fuddy' feeling that comes with ineffective rules.

It is impossible to enforce this stuff. Needing to provide your own steel IS a functional method of limiting people, but the problematic people had to have provided their own steel to get us this far into ban land anyway.

This does nothing to prevent people from breaking rules. The ban on steel will not stop anyone from putting steel up. The ban on 'quick draw' is the same- especially when qualification is an additional cost to which only a percentage of people will get access to.

All of the people who are jeopardizing our use of the range are the same people who will not listen to any of the new rules. They are also the least likely to get punished for breaking rules as they are the once or twice a year shooters that come, use the PVC target holders as targets, leave their brass, and leave the gate open.

i know- crazy talk

[ray1970]

I'm all for keeping the high power range a dedicated high power range. I guess if people want to shoot steel past 500m then there isn't much choice other than to build an additional range.

All of this "have to get certified to blah, blah, blah" stuff doesn't sit well with me. Like J, I've been around firearms for a long time and used to shoot IPSC, IDPA, Bianchi Cup, NRA high power, etc. Having someone tell me I am not allowed to do certain things at a range where I pay to be a member kind of irks me.

[MarkCO]

Baby steps. CRC is undergoing some changes. If we stick with it and keep pushing for things to be done right, I believe we can get to a better place. We got some bad apples, and they will be identified and tossed eventually. Until then, some hoops are worth it. I just keep asking for a little each time.

[Hound]

I am all for the extra range and will donate some time if available. I don't mind providing my own steel but the certified part..... I would say no to if put to a vote. It is hard enough to find a time to meet up in the first place.

[USMC88-93]

I am a paying member in good standing and as such expect something in return from the club, foremost on that list is the expectation that I know what I am doing and the idea that I must "get certified" to use a range just rubs me the wrong way. I sat through orientation and am aware of range rules that should suffice. That being said if I am doing something outside the rules I would expect there to be individuals there willing to point it out be there consequences for me or not. If there is expectation that there are additional certifications required and I have to take time off work or make other arrangements for it would make me rethink my membership.

[spleify]

Sounds like a cool idea to have a new range. I am always up for new/more/different ways to shoot and like the idea of having a steel range out to 1200 yards. So if this is going in between the east berms and the current silhouette range, is there a worry about someone walking down to 1200 yards between two very active existing ranges?

Again, I like the idea but its going to be tough for a lot of people to get qualified and this will likely isolate some very good people with good intentions.

What I would REALLY LOVE to see is the club build a nice club house for the members. If you've ever been to Ben Lomond Gun Club you have seen one of the nicest club houses ever. If I was even a little closer I would join that club almost solely for the club house. Its nice after a long day of shooting with friends and family to go and sit down and relax for a little bit and maybe grab a bite to eat and just sit and BS and hang out for a while.

[MarkCO]

Some guys have sent me ideas for simpler ways for a control, but I think no controls for the BOD to "like" it is a non-starter. If you have shot HP at CRC or the Precision match, you would be good to go. If this range adds a match, then that is a third way to get cleared.

Walking behind the East ranges is not an issue, but the Silhouette range will be affected and that would need to be considered.

Club house...are you willing to double your annual dues AND spend all the Cash the club has? The increased activity form the East ranges does help, but so too will another match, especially a LR match with minimal cost tot eh club. I can see a clubhouse in a few years. The changes in the last 3 have been pretty impressive.

[J]

Yeah, I'd be willing to double my dues for a club-house. Don't think that will be the general opinion among members though. Its nice to dream.

[C Ward]

There is no way the board is unaware of the interest in shooting long range steel with precision rifle .

For over a year now at RJ's match there has been from the start at least as many shooters as HP and silhouette and is now pulling double or more . There are CRC board members that shoot the match including the president .

To say they don't know about the demand is wrong .

[spleify]

Club house...are you willing to double your annual dues AND spend all the Cash the club has? The increased activity form the East ranges does help, but so too will another match, especially a LR match with minimal cost tot eh club. I can see a clubhouse in a few years. The changes in the last 3 have been pretty impressive.

Sure, double it if it means a nice place to go and hang out, but like J said I'm sure that won't go over well with the majority. But I cant imagine that CRC is hurting for money right now. The club membership blew up the last two years and with multiple matches going on almost EVERY weekend there has to be funds available in conjunction with the base of members there I am sure there are folks that would be willing to volunteer their time, efforts, expertise and knowledge to help out with it.