Quote Originally Posted by rustycrusty View Post
What is the rationale behind the east berm steel ruling (as well as the draw certification)?
- the design of open pistol berms -such as the east berms- is to facilitate IDPA/USPSA/Steel Challenge type events AND ALLOW PRACTICE FOR SUCH SPORTS to take place.

MarkCO- I know you are pressing for our club to adapt and keep relavant and attractive to shooters in these 'new' sports, but there must be a better way of keeping the BoD from going all NYC on us... There has to be a better way.
Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
Would steel would be allowed at the 100y berm along the same rules as the rest of East, no centerfilre rifle? Someone want to do offhand with their hi-point it would be OK.
I will try to combine these two questions as it was my error...

Rifle (centerfire rifle calibers), on steel, is not allowed on ANY of the East full bays. The 200 yard berm CAN have centerfire shot at steel provided the targets are set back in the berm AND you shoot from the elevated pad. If you want to shoot .22RF or PCC on steel in the rest of the East bays, that is okay provided you have the clearance. On the club provided paper backers, sure, you can shoot CF rifle. When you use the provided backers RETURN them to their storage location and PICK UP YOUR targets and trash (directed at whoever is a range pig). I will say this. The BOD looks to be more inclined to suspend or revoke memberships for those who do not take care of the range. Just follow the rules, they are not that hard.

However, to say the BOD does not listen, or that this is the first time they have responded to protest is ignorant of what the BOD does and or has done. EVERY single time I have asked to address an issue with the BOD, they have listened and responded. My history at CRC is only a few years, but I believe great strides have been made to both improve the facility and to understand the needs of the practical/tactical shooters coming into the club. I asked for the split berm as well as the 100 and 200 on the East range just to afford more options, and the BOD approved the funds and got them built. Now they are looking at the creation of a new range for LR steel.

That said, there have been some serious issues with safety, ignorance and just plain stupidity by some new members. When one is a straight line bench type shooter and they see the new folks come in and then they see those types of actions, I really can't blame the BOD, given their understanding and history, to impose restrictions. I see my "job" as helping the BOD understand the needs of the P/T shooters even as they try to balance those with the "traditional" type of members. And learn they have, even participating in many of the new events. We still have yet to have a BOD member try a 3Gun match, but every other match type one of them has tried, even if just to understand the basics. Show me any other club where that has happened.

Personally, I do not like the CCW restriction, but I have not addressed it with the BOD for a variety of reasons.

As for the restriction on "quick-draw" and movement, realize that is WAS a prohibition. I asked for variance, and was granted such, by the creation of a clearance procedure. I know some people are pissed about it, but at the time, it was the path to get it allowed. I think there are maybe a dozen people TOTAL who have requested such and maybe 10 or so have actually completed it. Yes, it costs $10 to get the flag, which I paid for and just get reimbursed. Yes it is inconvenient. However, if you have shot ANY form of organized P/T match and understand about the issues related to proper steel placement in a berm, it will seem almost stupid easy to you. I have driven out to the range 3 times and the people who asked did not show up, so now I only do it when I am going out anyway. Show up at a 3Gun match or a USPSA pistol match, I will probably be there, but I would still check first.