Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
of course refrigerated

bubbles in bread after rise. LOTS OF THEM. I think i will do a better job of kneading after 1st rise, before placing in loaf pan. You putting the ice in a pan next to the bread or different shelf?
I don't knead after the first rise at all just slap it down and shape it

i usually just toss the ice on the floor of the oven