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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    ... we dont need more laws...
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmailliard View Post
    We bring them home and take care of our own.
    No, we most certainly do not. We say we do, but we rarely back it up. Many Americans during the recent history have gotten into trouble in foreign lands and the American government does NOTHING to help them. American missionaries get locked up for having bibles, we leave them to rot. American soldiers take wrong turns, get locked up and we leave them to rot. American children get kidnapped and taken to other countries and we don't go get them. American people die from terrible diseases everyday and the government doesn't do anything to help (not saying they should) and many times even creates red tape that makes it harder for them to get help.

    So why spend the money and effort this time to bring these two people home when they are surely going to die??? Something is different this time. This goes against CDC protocol and I for one don't believe our government does ANYTHING for the good of the people. This just doesn't fit the .gov's SOP.

    Do I think the gov is doing something evil? No. But they are up to something. Maybe they just wanted training in American facilities with American experts...who knows. But it is absolutely outside the ordinary reaction our government is known for.
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    Ah, here we go, I bet this is why we brought them back. They were test subjects. Remember that "experimental drug" sent to them...well, sounds like it may have worked.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

    Knowing his dose was still frozen, Brantly asked if he could have Writebol's now-thawed medication. It was brought to his room and administered through an IV. Within an hour of receiving the medication, Brantly's condition was nearly reversed. His breathing improved; the rash over his trunk faded away. One of his doctors described the events as "miraculous."
    On July 30, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, an arm of the military responsible for any chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive threats, allotted additional funding to MAPP Biopharmaceutical due to "promising results."

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    It's spreading. Nigeria now has 3 deaths, 5 confirmed sick and 14 potentials. All were in contact with the American that got sick on the plane and died in Nigeria. Saudi Arabia has one potential case. Numbers of deaths and confirmed sick are going exponential.





    And this little cartoon sums up how I feel about the media doctors telling everyone that Ebola is no big deal.


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    That is all.

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    There's nothing wrong with monitoring and discussing world events. Nobody is saying "we're all going to die!"

    This outbreak is inarguably significant. Something to lose sleep over? Nope. But it is something that I find to be particularly interesting especially within the topic of preparedness. This is a real event and can be a useful case study for people that prepare...even more so than the theoretical events preparedness communities typically use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    There's nothing wrong with monitoring and discussing world events. Nobody is saying "we're all going to die!"
    We are all going to die...........










    just hopefully not from ebola.

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    They are so cute.

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    Here we go, world police again.

    http://kdvr.com/2014/09/07/u-s-may-s...bola-epidemic/

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Sunday signaled for the first time that he is likely to dispatch U.S. military resources to help fight the serious outbreak of Ebola in several countries in West Africa.

    “We have to make this a national security priority. We have to mobilize the international community, get resources in there,” the President said to Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
    “We’re going to have to get U.S. military assets just to set up, for example, isolation units and equipment there, to provide security for public health workers surging from around the world.”
    Obama’s comments come after sharp criticism from Dr. Joanne Liu, president of Doctors Without Borders, last week.
    “States with the required capacity have a political and humanitarian responsibility to come forward and offer a desperately needed, concrete response to the disaster unfolding in front of the world’s eyes … rather than limit their response to the potential arrival of an infected patient in their countries,” Liu said.
    Obama cautioned that inaction could have dire consequences.
    “If we don’t make that effort now, and this spreads not just through Africa but other parts of the world, there’s the prospect then that the virus mutates. It becomes more easily transmittable. And then it could be a serious danger to the United States,” Obama said.
    American Ebola survivor Dr. Keith Brantly pleaded for help from the international community in a recent op-ed for Time.
    “The national governments of West Africa are overwhelmed,” Brantly said.
    “This is a global problem, and it requires the action of national governments around the world.”
    Obama echoed Brantly’s sentiments, arguing that U.S. leadership is necessary for a health crisis of this magnitude.
    “When I go before Congress, and I say, ‘Let’s give some public health aid to countries like Liberia, so that they can set up hospitals and nurses and vaccinations, et cetera,’ you know, sometimes, you know, the American public says, ‘Why are we wasting money on them?’ ” Obama said, explaining, “When we make those short-term investments now, it really pays a lot of dividends in the future.”
    The Ebola outbreak has been centered in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, with a handful of cases in Nigeria. The overall fatality rate is 50%, WHO said, ranging from 39% in Sierra Leone to 64% in Guinea, according to the latest figures.

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