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    The cool thing about chlorine is that it kills everything: bacteria, viruses, and all living organisms. Even better, it breaks down in water in just a few hours (time depends on concentration). If you put chlorinated water into a storage container and seal it completely, you don't have to worry about bacteria getting in there and making the water unsafe to drink. Storage is then good for an indefinite amount of time, or until opened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    The cool thing about chlorine is that it kills everything: bacteria, viruses, and all living organisms. Even better, it breaks down in water in just a few hours (time depends on concentration). If you put chlorinated water into a storage container and seal it completely, you don't have to worry about bacteria getting in there and making the water unsafe to drink. Storage is then good for an indefinite amount of time, or until opened.
    You need to use the correct amount of chlorine. To little it does nothing, too much it's toxic and ....well there's less people who will be needing water.

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    1 Quart water, 2 drops bleach
    1 Gallon water, 8 drops bleach
    5 Gallons water, 1/2 teaspoon bleach
    10 Gallons water, 1 teaspoon bleach
    50 Gallons water, 5 teaspoons bleach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    You need to use the correct amount of chlorine. To little it does nothing, too much it's toxic and ....well there's less people who will be needing water.

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/surviv...rinking-water/

    Water – Bleach Ratio For Purifying Drinking Water

    1 Quart water, 2 drops bleach
    1 Gallon water, 8 drops bleach
    5 Gallons water, 1/2 teaspoon bleach
    10 Gallons water, 1 teaspoon bleach
    50 Gallons water, 5 teaspoons bleach

    If you put in too much, it will eventually break down and be safe to drink - but it might take a considerable amount of time. Also, it will probably smell and taste strongly like a swimming pool. Keep in mind you still have to filter the water to remove particulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    If you put in too much, it will eventually break down and be safe to drink - but it might take a considerable amount of time. Also, it will probably smell and taste strongly like a swimming pool. Keep in mind you still have to filter the water to remove particulate.
    Not acceptable. Do you know the time frame for it to be come safe to drink? If it can't be done correctly you put you, family & friends in danger. Especially if your other containers become damaged, and it's one of your last.

    We would be filtering out particulates prior to chlorinating. Once the chlorine is added, on the shelf, storage, or table for consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    H-Badger. If you get a 55 gal. drum, how do you keep it from getting nasty? I really don't know - maybe it won't go bad as long as you keep it sealed up? Do you need to put some chlorine or something in it?

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    I just plan on using the water to water my lawn before I turn on the sprinklers or after I turn them off to rotate the water every 6 months. still smells a bit like mt dew though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Not acceptable. Do you know the time frame for it to be come safe to drink? If it can't be done correctly you put you, family & friends in danger. Especially if your other containers become damaged, and it's one of your last.

    We would be filtering out particulates prior to chlorinating. Once the chlorine is added, on the shelf, storage, or table for consumption.
    Perfectly acceptable to me. I know what safe/unsafe chlorine levels are and how long it takes chlorine to decompose in water. With a 1:1000 or less ratio of chlorine to water, the chlorine will ALWAYS break down (reacting with various things in your water) or dissipate (basically evaporating from the water) completely in 24 hours or less. With a perfect 1:1000 solution, in a 55 gallon drum, (assuming a 3.5% solution of sodium hypochlorite AKA: household bleach) without aeration, the sodium hypochlorite is completely decomposed or dissipated in about 3 hours.

    YOU are the best tool in your toolbox, but you must apply the right tool to the right job. If you don't get chemistry, then use a simple chart like posted above. Charts are a great reference, but BE SURE you know what concentration level of bleach you are working with, and WHAT EXACTLY is in the bleach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Perfectly acceptable to me. I know what safe/unsafe chlorine levels are and how long it takes chlorine to decompose in water. With a 1:1000 or less ratio of chlorine to water, the chlorine will ALWAYS break down (reacting with various things in your water) or dissipate (basically evaporating from the water) completely in 24 hours or less. With a perfect 1:1000 solution, in a 55 gallon drum, (assuming a 3.5% solution of sodium hypochlorite AKA: household bleach) without aeration, the sodium hypochlorite is completely decomposed or dissipated in about 3 hours.

    YOU are the best tool in your toolbox, but you must apply the right tool to the right job. If you don't get chemistry, then use a simple chart like posted above. Charts are a great reference, but BE SURE you know what concentration level of bleach you are working with, and WHAT EXACTLY is in the bleach.
    Yep, back in Indonesia.. we simply put enough chlorine or bleach til we can smell it...Then wait it out til the smell is gone. I basically drank that pool water/boiled water for the first half of my life.. You got 50/50 chance to either become a banker or a lifetime sweat shop worker. So not bad at all!
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