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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    There's a member here, whose handle escapes me at the moment, that says, "Sure, bring your daughter."

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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    I get you on the work thing. Fortunately, I work with a few very libertarian types, and the rest are not long out of college and generally overlook anything other than I-phones and such. I have spent considerable time honing an "old codger" atmosphere. Co-workers generally see me as a hunting type who does things "old school" cause I am too old to do otherwise. I am not that old, but it works for me. It explains why I tend to always have a knife on me, and why my daily backpack seems to always have just the right thing in it. "Why you ask? Oh just old habits from being a hunter I guess."

    Seriously. If you really are a prepper, you will NOT fit in with the normal dopes in life. You are typically looking at things differently and have different interests. I know it sounds a bit CIA-ish, but developing a cover story (or stories) for your habits will significantly reduce the number of inquiries in the habits you keep. If you are confident and proud to be just enough different, most will leave you alone as our PC society tends to shy away from confrontation.
    Cover story is what I need serious work on. Not quite related, but I HATE going to meetings where you're supposed to say something interesting about yourself. I have plenty of things people would find interesting, but none I am willing to share. I always try to think of a quick lie and can never do it. I really need to get better at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    As the line goes...

    Great. Bring your daughters.
    I would have to spend a lot of time practicing that one so I could say it without busting out laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    Once they get into learning and do those kind of things, you can start working them into more prep focused projects. You get prep, they get knowledge, you both have fun doing it.
    I was tasting the pickles I have fermenting in the crock, and my 16 year old seriously did not know that pickles were made from cucumbers. I have given up on kids nowadays. If I had as much information literally at the ends of my fingertips like they have? They sure as heck can remember how to get through a level in a video game by heart, or can follow a you tube channel with people jumping off buildings onto cacti or kicking each other in the nuts or settingthemselves on fire, but they do not know where pickles come from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbeau30 View Post
    I was tasting the pickles I have fermenting in the crock, and my 16 year old seriously did not know that pickles were made from cucumbers. I have given up on kids nowadays. If I had as much information literally at the ends of my fingertips like they have? They sure as heck can remember how to get through a level in a video game by heart, or can follow a you tube channel with people jumping off buildings onto cacti or kicking each other in the nuts or settingthemselves on fire, but they do not know where pickles come from.

    "Your" 16 yo? Is that a reflection on them... or you? Not trying to be a d1ck. But, seriously? Your own kid being a dumbass as an example of failed society and not think that reflects on your parenting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    "Your" 16 yo? Is that a reflection on them... or you? Not trying to be a d1ck. But, seriously? Your own kid being a dumbass as an example of failed society and not think that reflects on your parenting?
    It could you are right. This is what ASSuming what knowledge a child has gleaned from 16 years of existance on earth. Didn't actually think that I needed to conduct briefings at the dinner table of where pickles came from or similar subjects. But yeah you are right, and we are getting off topic. Feel free to PM me if you wish to provide me with more construuctive criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbeau30 View Post
    It could you are right. This is what ASSuming what knowledge a child has gleaned from 16 years of existance on earth. Didn't actually think that I needed to conduct briefings at the dinner table of where pickles came from or similar subjects. But yeah you are right, and we are getting off topic. Feel free to PM me if you wish to provide me with more construuctive criticism.
    Like I said, not trying to be a jerk to you. Sorry if I came off that way.

    My kids know pickles are made from cucumbers. Because they help make them. My kids also know hamburgers come from cows, because they hunt, have friends who live on ranches, and are learning to butcher and regularly cook meals at the home.

    Now, I am not saying you should raise your children like I do mine. Absolutely not. Variety of skill is more important when the that particular time comes. I would rather your kids learn stuff that I and mine don't already know. For example, I know basic automotive circuitry and home electrical wiring, but if I had to cobble together a solar system or rig up a radio, forget it, I am lost. I would need someone else in the group to handle that.

    Kids are useless vacuums only because they are allowed to be. They will definitely reflect the information that you have taken the time to pour into them. My daughter is grown and gone now, but in her early teens she had to change oil, change tires, do a break job and other general maintenance on a car. Not because I expected her to always do it, but so she had a basic understanding and could if she had to. And so she could talk to a mechanic in real terms and not get taken to the cleaners. She was grumpy at the time when she had grease on her face, but now she has a great appreciation when her dumbass boyfriend has turned out to be mechanically useless.




    As for back on topic:

    Most of the world will not do well when things go bad. I do my best to stay off radar so when that time comes, there won't already be a line at my door. I still haven't figured out how to prevent the seekers after a shtf scenario. It will be pretty clear you are doing better than the neighbors when things are extra tight. You WILL end up in a spotlight eventually. How to deal with that? I don't live in a neighborhood of like minded people, so cobbling together a team from those around me is not likely to happen.

    I know some (probably some here even) have carefully selected neighbors to create a community of like-minded individuals. That would be great, if not incredible. However, for those of us with more reasonable incomes...... I cannot afford to relocate even as much as I would like to. So I am still trying to figure that out.
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    edit - "brake" job. Edit function won't work for some reason. I am enough of a tard without you guys thinking I believe a car is slowed by using the breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
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    Cover story is what I need serious work on. Not quite related, but I HATE going to meetings where you're supposed to say something interesting about yourself. I have plenty of things people would find interesting, but none I am willing to share. I always try to think of a quick lie and can never do it. I really need to get better at that.
    Easy.

    You're an outdoorsy guy, who makes sure the area he walked through, is cleaner than when you went in.
    When not working or spending quality time with your family, there's always the phone calls for your local charity. After all if we cannot help each other, how can we help our self.

    That's all you need to say.

    OR you're a survivalist kind of guy who will do anything to protect what's yours. If any of you believe i'll share what i have, picture your rotten corpse plastered across the mail box, from my 12ga
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    Ok.

    ...cross kazoo off the "go to" list........








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