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    That's why some of us choose to live in the middle of nowhere.

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    The partially disassembled vehicles on my front lawn double as trip wire alternatives. There is an over-arching plan behind the whole thing. Trust me. There is thought behind what, to the untrained eye, appears to be a junk jumble monument to laziness.
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    what if you live in the middle of nowhere, so they can't even get close enough to see how trashy your yard looks?

    For someone to see spray paint markings on my house, they've already been trespassing for over a quarter mile...

    I've gotten the "I know where I'm going" comment before, frequently because of where I live- generally they're one of these categories:
    1) Friends that don't have the means to take care of themselves right now, much less after SHTF
    2) Friends that are afraid the city will go to SHTF, but it may be safe where I live.
    3) other preppers looking for a plan B or C
    I usually meet it with, we'll all need help, what can you bring to the party?
    group 1 realisitically can't bring anything but labor- depending on my trust level and opinion of their skills, that may help- i.e. I personally can't keep watch 24/7 alone- and my wife/kids lack tactical skills to asses things and would be waking me up too much

    group 2 must bring some kind of supplies- and preferably a travel trailer or RV for them to live in... they have means now, so I tell them to plan on what they bring- I present it as "if you just show up, we'll all die after running out of supplies", to avoid bringing up the reality that they'll likely be on their own for that reason.

    group 3 usually wants to talk about what they'll bring, and may even ask what I anticipate what I would need more than anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    what if you live in the middle of nowhere, so they can't even get close enough to see how trashy your yard looks?

    For someone to see spray paint markings on my house, they've already been trespassing for over a quarter mile...

    I've gotten the "I know where I'm going" comment before, frequently because of where I live- generally they're one of these categories:
    1) Friends that don't have the means to take care of themselves right now, much less after SHTF
    2) Friends that are afraid the city will go to SHTF, but it may be safe where I live.
    3) other preppers looking for a plan B or C
    I usually meet it with, we'll all need help, what can you bring to the party?
    group 1 realisitically can't bring anything but labor- depending on my trust level and opinion of their skills, that may help- i.e. I personally can't keep watch 24/7 alone- and my wife/kids lack tactical skills to asses things and would be waking me up too much

    group 2 must bring some kind of supplies- and preferably a travel trailer or RV for them to live in... they have means now, so I tell them to plan on what they bring- I present it as "if you just show up, we'll all die after running out of supplies", to avoid bringing up the reality that they'll likely be on their own for that reason.

    group 3 usually wants to talk about what they'll bring, and may even ask what I anticipate what I would need more than anything

    Group 3. Have RV and plenty to offer, but currently stationed in less than optimal suburbia. Always exploring plans B and C. Well D, E, F and G too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    If it comes to that, I will gladly make my place look like unappealing trash.
    Your HOA allow SHTF scenario's ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    Group 3. Have RV and plenty to offer, but currently stationed in less than optimal suburbia. Always exploring plans B and C. Well D, E, F and G too.
    You're welcome here. Having 1 more vehicle to block the roadway is always useful. Know how to operate a diesel locomotive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    You're welcome here. Having 1 more vehicle to block the roadway is always useful. Know how to operate a diesel locomotive?

    doesn't do much good without rails- maybe that works for you, but not here..
    I have multiple 6000#+ vehicles that can block the drive, and my house is in a VERY defensible position (as evaluated by an Army Ranger specializing in camp setup)

    As we're all aware, it would depend in the situation- trying to get from Loveland to Penrose (thru/around Denver and COS) would be difficult in many scenarios...
    but if it made sense under the circumstances, I'd have to know who I'm dealing with...

    I should look into HAM (being an Engineer, test should be cake)... in case infrastructure makes other comms fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    Group 3. Have RV and plenty to offer, but currently stationed in less than optimal suburbia. Always exploring plans B and C. Well D, E, F and G too.
    maybe we need some kind of group that meets to work out networks like this... I generally have a "bug-in" mentality, since I'm in a position where any issues outside of local natural disasters would make my location more desirable... which is why I've had people approach me. My "bug-out" plans are limited to local natural disasters (we've had our driveway nearly taken out by floods far from the house- plans worked fine for that one)
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    I don't see it as a plan A, B, C, etc... more of a standard if/then kinda thing. If at all possible, I'm going to attempt to link up with a very experienced guy with a very interesting background and that I met in Bagram who lives in COS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    I don't see it as a plan A, B, C, etc... more of a standard if/then kinda thing. If at all possible, I'm going to attempt to link up with a very experienced guy with a very interesting background and that I met in Bagram who lives in COS.
    and if he's at ground zero?

    It's all about thinking worst case, and what ifs...


    Don't get me wrong- My main plans involve depending on ME... I probably need to have more plans that involve taking care of my family if "ME" is taken out for some reason
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