striker fired pistols.. best out right now.

[sellersm]

Wow, mcantar18c, that picture should come with a warning to all Glock lovers!

Seriously, that's an amazing transformation!

[mcantar18c]

Wow, mcantar18c, that picture should come with a warning to all Glock lovers!

Seriously, that's an amazing transformation!

All the reliability and ugliness of a normal Glock but without the discomfort

[tim-adams]

ok I have a touch smaller than average sized hands, previously the glock 17 and the Beretta 92 just feel terrible in my hands..
I have not shot a glock in many years, gen2 I think, I disliked the feel and the trigger sucked out loud.. now I am seeing that some feeling issues can be "managed" and the trigger can also be managed as well..
good to know..

my shoot list:
#1 glock 19
#2 full size M&P
#3 a PPQ if one can be found to rent
#4 a HK ditto not optimistic (have to make some calls)

another question: I have been told that glock will run the cheapest Russian steal case, what about the other three?

[mtnrider]

my shoot list:
#1 glock 19
#2 full size M&P
#3 a PPQ if one can be found to rent
#4 a HK ditto not optimistic (have to make some calls)

another question: I have been told that glock will run the cheapest Russian steal case, what about the other three?

I own guns #2, #3, and #4 and have shot cheap Russian steal case through them with no problem. Not a lot of rounds, but a few. I much as I want to like Glocks the truth is they just don't work for me and have sold every one I have purchased. The grip angle is just wrong for me.

Someone else mentioned the FNS (which I also own). Maybe worth a look? Mags may be tougher to source for that one just like the M&P full size but not imposable.

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[mcantar18c]

I own guns #2, #3, and #4 and have shot cheap Russian steal case through them with no problem. Not a lot of rounds, but a few. I much as I want to like Glocks the truth is they just don't work for me and have sold every one I have purchased. The grip angle is just wrong for me.

Someone else mentioned the FNS (which I also own). Maybe worth a look? Mags may be tougher to source for that one just like the M&P full size but not imposable.

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Common misconception. Glocks don't have a funny grip angle, in fact it's actually a very natural-pointing one. The problem is in the palm swell, the lower portion of the backstrap that bulges out ends up forcing the muzzle higher instead of forcing your wrist downward. Prior to modifying mine, the front sight would be almost an inch higher than the rear on a blind draw... afterwards there was an immediate improvement and it is now perfectly level.

[mtnrider]

Common misconception. Glocks don't have a funny grip angle, in fact it's actually a very natural-pointing one. The problem is in the palm swell, the lower portion of the backstrap that bulges out ends up forcing the muzzle higher instead of forcing your wrist downward. Prior to modifying mine, the front sight would be almost an inch higher than the rear on a blind draw... afterwards there was an immediate improvement and it is now perfectly level.

Whatever you call it, it doesn't work for me :-)

[tim-adams]

Common misconception. Glocks don't have a funny grip angle, in fact it's actually a very natural-pointing one. The problem is in the palm swell, the lower portion of the backstrap that bulges out ends up forcing the muzzle higher instead of forcing your wrist downward. Prior to modifying mine, the front sight would be almost an inch higher than the rear on a blind draw... afterwards there was an immediate improvement and it is now perfectly level.

I had heard of this, coming from 1911 and XDm I am not sure the glock is going to point right for me, straight out of the box..
so long as the price point is close and the reliability is up there, its just got to feel good..

i do not trash talk those guns or that gun.. everyone is built a bit differently, length of fingers, size of palm, natural wrist angle, guns are build with different ergonomics and sizing to attract customers who find that sizing/feel best for them..

what I am hearing is I am looking at the right guns, the price points are somewhat varied but the top three are pretty close (g19, M&P, PPQ) (have to check the leaver mag release)

[Irving]

i do not trash talk those guns or that gun.. everyone is built a bit differently, length of fingers, size of palm, natural wrist angle, guns are build with different ergonomics and sizing to attract customers who find that sizing/feel best for them..

It took me a long time to be able to shoot my M&P well. I think that is more a reflection of my desire to shoot well, than it is a reflection of the gun though.

[tim-adams]

I own guns #2, #3, and #4 and have shot cheap Russian steal case through them with no problem. Not a lot of rounds, but a few. I much as I want to like Glocks the truth is they just don't work for me and have sold every one I have purchased. The grip angle is just wrong for me.

Someone else mentioned the FNS (which I also own). Maybe worth a look? Mags may be tougher to source for that one just like the M&P full size but not imposable.

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Thanks for the info, the FN's and Sig's I classified as (sexy but $$$$$)
I also picked up a FN 5.7 and did not like the feel in my hand, pretty big, also the 5.7 is very expensive to feed $.40 + per round..

[sellersm]

Thanks for the info, the FN's and Sig's I classified as (sexy but $$$$$)
I also picked up a FN 5.7 and did not like the feel in my hand, pretty big, also the 5.7 is very expensive to feed $.40 + per round..

The FNS (or the FNX or older FNP) aren't any more expensive than the others in your list.