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    Looking for a precision type toy. I don't have plans on shooting it past about five hundred yards or so. Not planning on taking out any bad guys with it either. Could possibly see limited use on coyotes or prairie dogs but doubtful. Also, I have some shoulder issues that make shooting larger calibers unpleasant.

    With all of that in mind, I am leaning towards something based off the AR platform and chambered in 223/5.56. Maybe some sort or varmint style setup. I haven't totally ruled out a bolt action rifle though. Or other calibers as long as they are easy on my shoulder.

    I'm not looking to spend a fortune but don't want to buy junk either. Hoping to keep it around $2K including optics if I can.

    I welcome thoughts and ideas as I've been looking at different stuff and just can't make a decision on what I want to do.

    Thanks.

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    Savage 223 bolt build, get a better stock and trigger, then put the rest into something like a SWFA SS, or Vortex PST optic.
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    Here is what said combination can do:

    https://www.ar-15.co/threads/124845-...oter-and-Rifle
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    You can easily build another upper in AR Platform with lots of room for a good optic and maybe some other goodies. I have a rifle gassed 18", which is easily my favorite setup to shoot. It's easily low sub-moa with good ammo, It'll get decent accuracy with blaster ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nisils14 View Post
    You can easily build another upper in AR Platform with lots of room for a good optic and maybe some other goodies. I have a rifle gassed 18", which is easily my favorite setup to shoot. It's easily low sub-moa with good ammo, It'll get decent accuracy with blaster ammo.
    I don't tend to swap uppers around too much. I'd just build a complete, dedicated rifle. But there are factory rifles cheaper than I can build something right now.

    I'm kind of liking the Rock River A4 Varmint model in either the 18" or 20" model.

    DPMS offers a good looking rifle in their TRP with a stainless 20"'barrel but I can't find any real good info on it's accuracy potential and not sue I could bring myself to spend $1K on anything DPMS builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I don't tend to swap uppers around too much. I'd just build a complete, dedicated rifle. But there are factory rifles cheaper than I can build something right now.
    I'm kind of liking the Rock River A4 Varmint model in either the 18" or 20" model.
    DPMS offers a good looking rifle in their TRP with a stainless 20"'barrel but I can't find any real good info on it's accuracy potential and not sue I could bring myself to spend $1K on anything DPMS builds.
    Factor in another lower for 200-500 and you got your complete rifle. I feel companies will always be able to make and market rifles much cheaper then one ever could think of putting it together themselves, especially if its an apples to apples comparison. I think the benefit in DIY, is being able to spec build to your hearts desire. Picking out my favorite parts and wrenching 'em together is probably why I'll choose to build mine over than buying a factory one. That and I get a sense of satisfying my need to tinker. There's some nice bang for your buck barrels out there. White Oak Armament has a rifle 18" that has a good track record. Out of my personal observations, BCM SS410 and Rainer Match barrels have had good results. I think some companies offer a accuracy guarantee on their barrels.
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    A2 Stock and Buffer Assembly
    - $63.95
    LPK - No trigger - $34.95
    RRA 2 stage NM trigger - $94.95
    Anderson Lower - $44.95 + $25 transfer fee to your local ffl
    Anderson upper - $44.95
    WOA 18" rifle gas wylde chambered barrel - $269.99
    Fail Zero Nib-X BCG - $129.99
    BCM Charging Handle - $44.95
    Nordic Rifle Handgaurd - $89.95
    Gas Block - $19.95
    Gas Tube - $14.95
    Nordic Corvette Comp - $47.95
    Aero Precision Scope Mount - $79.95
    Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10X44 - $599.99

    Grand total $1606.42 + whatever Brownells charges for shipping on the barrel, all the other stuff would get free shipping from Joe bob's and Primary arms. And everything is in stock right now. With propper assembly, I'll bet $100 it will shoot as well or better than that Rock River A4 Varmint that would be $1149.95 plus the same $599.99 optic and $79.99 mount for a total of $1829.93.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I'm kind of liking the Rock River A4 Varmint model in either the 18" or 20" model.
    I have a RRA Varmint with the 20" barrel and I can't tell you how happy I am with that gun. The thing is just stupid accurate. It will shoot groups as tight as My GAP .260. At 100 yards anyways. It's by far a sub-MOA gun. I have shot everything from 50gr to the 77gr SMK with awesome results. But mainly the 77 SMK. I've even had good luck single loading the 80gr bullets.

    I really don't think you can go wrong with that RRA Varmint.
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    Thanks, J. The Savage rifles are shooters for sure. I had one years ago. Had the original barrel re-chambered for 223 Ackley with a tighter neck. Would shoot under 1/2" at 100 yards all day with just about any load I fed it.

    Kind of looking for something a little "cooler".

    If I do a bolt action I might stick it in an XLR chassis or something. And I would want a heavy barrel for sure.

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    Suppressed Rem 700 in 308. Mine is built to shoot like a .22 yet is great for long range.
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