Ideas and opinions needed

[XC700116]

With an AR, Hands down, no question either buy PREMIUM complete rifle (like a JP, Larue, POF, Seekins, etc) which is well above the $2k budget with optic, or build a decent upper with a great barrel and put it on a lower with a good-great trigger.

Option 2 is the one that can keep you under $2k with an optic. I've built pretty much exactly that rifle and it's currently my only 223/556 AR.

Here's the parts list:
Aero Precision reciever set
pieced together LPK
Geissele HSNM trigger
CTR Stock with Larue RISR on it
18" Rainier Ultra Match 223 wylde intermediate gas barrel. - could save a hundred bucks and get the same performance from a WOA barrel of similar config.
15" Troy Alpha rail
SJC Titan Brake
Topped with a 2.5-10X40 Vortex Viper PST in a Burris PEPR

Now you can shave a few bucks here and there by shopping smart, and going with some less expensive options that don't affect accuracy ie cheaper hand guard like the nordic components units or going with a Rock River NM 2 stage trigger over the Geissele, MOE stock vs the CTR, etc. Lots of ways to save some cash on it without giving up any accuracy.

Now with the rifle build listed above, I reliably shoot well past 500 yds with 75gr BTHP hand loads. For instance the last time I really stretched that rig's legs out, I was shooting a 10" square plate at 780 yds in a 25 mph cross wind, and hitting anywhere from 3-4 out of 5 on average, the first hit came on shot number 3, trying to figure the wind, all other misses were 100% either wind changes I didn't catch, or the loose nut behind the trigger. The gun is sub moa all day every day, the shooter on an AR platform, not so much hahahaha.

[MarkCO]

.223 Wylde with a good load and a good barrel is certainly 1/2MOA capable to 500 yards.

With the prices in the basement, I would bet you can build a complete upper for no more than $1200 that will give you everything you want and be at least $500 less than a factory built rifle. My Kreiger shot under 1/3MOA out to 600 yards and I built that upper complete for what would have been about $1k retail. If you need help putting one together, let me know.

[MarkCO]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Mossberg MVP with a supressor and optic only about $1200, the 6.5PCC all told is just at $2K.

[XC700116]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Mossberg MVP with a supressor and optic only about $1200, the 6.5PCC all told is just at $2K.

Also a pretty damn good option

[Great-Kazoo]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Mossberg MVP with a supressor and optic only about $1200, the 6.5PCC all told is just at $2K.

Also a pretty damn good option

Pretty close to mark's $$ for mine (picture is basic off web) not mine, cause i don't feel like snapping a pic at this time.
ANYWAY I had burt bring the bbl from 24 down to 18" and threaded. I run an AAC M4 on it. Bushnell 6500 glass. My handloads, 55gr JSP with 2230 or x-terminator is dead on. Myself with more trigger time i have no doubt, hopefully. Outside of an aftermarket stock, the trigger is adjustable, yet good for now stock setting, Chambered for 5.56. IMO it's a sleeper for what you get , as people who fired it have said.

[mcantar18c]

I've been wanting to build a stubby .308 bolt gun with a can for a while... I think it's next on the list.
In the logic of the interwebz, you should build one because I think it would be cool.

http://i.imgur.com/9sBkXr4.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...rreledAICS.jpg

[MarkCO]

Anderson upper - $44.95
WOA 18" rifle gas wylde chambered barrel - $269.99
Fail Zero Nib-X BCG - $129.99
BCM Charging Handle - $44.95
Nordic Rifle Handgaurd - $89.95
Gas Block - $19.95
Gas Tube - $14.95
Nordic Corvette Comp - $47.95

That is pretty close to this: http://www.carbonarms.us/AR-15-Upper...-18-Upper.html except with a better gas system, barrel and upper receiver. We had them on sale for $700 during Christmas so if you want one, I would still match that price.

[ray1970]

Thanks for all of the advice and opinions.

Perhaps I'll just build it how I want. Pretty sure I had the rifle parts priced out about $1,300 including a good barrel, nice handguard, billet upper and lower receiver, and Geissele trigger. I'll have to look everything up again to make sure I didn't miss something. If the optics and mount put me a little over my target budget then so be it.

Of course,,a brand new Remington 700 Tactical heavy barrel would probably set me back about $600 and I could drop it in an XLR Element chassis for about another $700.

Darn it. Still too much to think about.

[nisils14]

1,300 sounds decent for a precision build. I think your choice in handguards, receivers, and barrel will vary quite a bit in price. everything else is, more or less, cut and dry. The only thing that bothered me about most .223 bolts, they come in 9 twist barrel, most say it's too slow for anything heavier than 69gr's, which is nice for extended distances out of a .223/5.56.

[XC700116]

Of course,,a brand new Remington 700 Tactical heavy barrel would probably set me back about $600 and I could drop it in an XLR Element chassis for about another $700.

Darn it. Still too much to think about.

I happen to know where there's one on the shelf $599