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    No where else to put it.
    Refreshing to know I'm not crazy for much of what I believe. And from a lesbian atheist not less.
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    It's nice to see him paired with someone who not only agrees with him, but is at his level of intelligence at the same time. I'm comparing to the videos of him being interviewed by the very people they are talking about and the entire interview is one big failed attempt at a gotcha.
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    Good video. I’ve only recently started listening to / watching Mr. Peterson (on Irving’s recommendation), but am really impressed with not only his intelligence, but with his genuine talent at breaking things down and explaining complex societal issues in a manner that simply makes sense.

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    The question is, is he really right though? And what's the danger on his being right, articulate, and erudite in his own field of study morphing into straying outside his competency without being caught by the majority of his listeners?

    I enjoy listening to him, but I do worry about his influence (and worse, the fact that many of his fans are more into reactionary sound bytes than actual thought). And sadly, much of what he says that is controversial or "enlightening" was just previously-common sense. We're so fallen as a society that we marvel at rhetorical fire like a bunch of blowgun-having monkey hunters on one side; on the other side (the antis), they hate the unveiling of a mere hazy apparition of that which they worked so hard to destroy.

    Water is wet. Rocks are hard. Our great-grandparents knew this. Why they didn't pass on such truths, and allowed their children and grandchildren to descend into madness, I don't know.
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    Is he really right though? Well, that’s the question. Like virtually any sociological debate, and unlike a question within the realm of mathematics/physics/chemistry, etc, there is not the possibility of writing an indisputable proof for the theorem. And certainly, those who are well-spoken (even if wrong) are more likely to be convincing to many than someone who is inarticulate, yet correct. While I agree that much of what he says is not revolutionary, I appreciate that he is able to articulate some of the things I’ve tried to express, in a much more cogent manner than my tiny brain will allow, and that he’s not afraid to go into the belly of the beast, so to speak, and speak his mind. Regarding sound bytes - where can I do some blowgun monkey hunting?

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    South America. Also the Denver zoo, but they don't look kindly on it.
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    I don't think it's fair to say that his fans are more interested in sound bytes than thought when he's selling out stadiums for hours long lectures. It's not his fault that YouTube video titles have regressed into pornography style click bait attention grabbers, nor does he control which clips of his get mashed together. Most video clips aren't of him ABSOLUTELY TRIGGERING, or COMPLETELY EMBARRASSING anyone. Just clips of lectures. That says more about how people try to make a living off of borrowed material then it does about his message or his fan base.
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    Fentonite, glad you listened since I was looking for something to send you and that does a great job illustrating a lot of his more common talking points.
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    Thanks again for the recommendation

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    Great response to Gillette.

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