M855/ss109

[hollohas]

Police say ban isn't needed.

"Any ammunition is of concern to police in the wrong hands, but this specific round has historically not posed a law enforcement problem," said James Pasco, executive director of the Washington office of the Fraternal Order of Police, the world's largest organization of sworn law enforcement officers, with more than 325,000 members.
He told Secrets that the round used mostly for target practice "is not typically used against law enforcement."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...rticle/2560964

[68Charger]

I'm not. One shouldn't be worried about supply IF they have sufficient Stock. It's the panic calls that ask you IF you want to sell any ammo since they only have 500 rounds . Those folks have an issue with Supply since they didn't Stock up.

True, but given that when supply will be restored is unknown, any amount of depletion of stock will eventually result in stock going to zero.
They are only experiencing the supply problem because they had a stock problem...
if they're not using any ammo regularly, then it's not a supply or stock problem- it's just a comfort problem.
but yeah, assuming supply will be constant in this political environment is a mistake...

I just feel like arguing semantics today I guess...

[Great-Kazoo]

True, but given that when supply will be restored is unknown, any amount of depletion of stock will eventually result in stock going to zero.
They are only experiencing the supply problem because they had a stock problem...
if they're not using any ammo regularly, then it's not a supply or stock problem- it's just a comfort problem.
but yeah, assuming supply will be constant in this political environment is a mistake...

I just feel like arguing semantics today I guess...

I'm in. Once again it goes back How many years? Failure to keep a supply of ammo in stock for the long haul is something people who were not old enough, or born for the 89 & 94 bans, is their problem. One should have learned (again newer shooters) to Buy cheap, stack deep. Or when funds were available to buy, buy, buy. I like others not only buy when priced right, we also reload. Which is another topic we can go to as necessary

[68Charger]

I'm in. Once again it goes back How many years? Failure to keep a supply of ammo in stock for the long haul is something people who were not old enough, or born for the 89 & 94 bans, is their problem. One should have learned (again newer shooters) to Buy cheap, stack deep. Or when funds were available to buy, buy, buy. I like others not only buy when priced right, we also reload. Which is another topic we can go to as necessary

So why didn't you stock enough to sell to these people who are asking you for ammo now? You had to know this was coming... (now I'm just being facetious)
Just for the record I'm arguing semantics, I'm not complaining I don't have enough ammo... My wife would complain I have too much (if she really knew)

I reload too, but only on a single stage press currently... so I frequently don't find the time. Maybe it's time I funded a bullet swage press (make my own boolits from .22LR shell casings) and a Progressive... I didn't start reloading for volume, it was for customization...

Somewhere I've got plans on how to make a bullet swaging press... much like the Walnut Hill... just would need the dies

[ray1970]

I stash factory ammo and just shoot my reloads. That way I don't burn through the factory stuff. The factory stuff is for "emergencies."

[EvolvingTactical]

I'm in. Once again it goes back How many years? Failure to keep a supply of ammo in stock for the long haul is something people who were not old enough, or born for the 89 & 94 bans, is their problem. One should have learned (again newer shooters) to Buy cheap, stack deep. Or when funds were available to buy, buy, buy. I like others not only buy when priced right, we also reload. Which is another topic we can go to as necessary

I have always tried to buy cheap, stack deep, but sadly due to my situation (full time college student, with part-time job) I have not always had funds for ammo. I could see another ban/scare coming as soon as the ATF banned 5.45 7N6 for the AK-74. Just wish I would have stacked deeper.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I'm already stacked deep, but ordered 4,500 rds. of assorted stuff yesterday, for myself and two other people....nothing panic about it, really.

It was just time to get some more, and yes I reload.

[wctriumph]

Cheaperthandirt has 420 cans of XM193 for $152.95.

[spqrzilla]

I'm more than a bit baffled why anyone would think signing a White House website petition had any meaning at all.

Submit a official comment to the ATF proposed regulation, they have to respond to those under the APA.

[Rooskibar03]

It would appear the rule has already been written.

http://bearingarms.com/breaking-obam...mmo-illegally/

from the article.

Because of the lengthy amount of time it takes for OMB to approve a new ATF Regulation Guide, ATF’s comment period is just for show. ATF officials and the White House have (and never did) no interest in actually listening to or considering comments that are currently being submitted.