Next week: Rem 700! But question...

[Delfuego]

Anyone know if that new Magpul Hunter 700 stock is worth it?

I think it will be a good stock. Haven't seen one in person but Magpul usually rocks. The price-point is good too. They have an option for mags and magwell. I think they will sell a ton of these. I would put my name down on one before they go "back-order" crazy. There are tons of great stock options for R700, but they get expensive fast! Ask me how I know? XLR Element is a great option too; they are in Grand Junction and colorado_hack is a dealer here on the board.

So basically I should just do a normal mount with the scope rings?

Take a look at these mounts, quality stuff and not super pricey. http://www.seekinsprecision.com/part...ope-bases.html

Be careful, there is no known cure for long range rifle sickness...

[JMBD2112]

Anyone know if that new Magpul Hunter 700 stock is worth it? I love how it looks, and usually they put out some quality stuff... I may just buy it regardless, before some asshole democrat decides they need to ban it.

I got to play with one at shot, it was pretty sweet for a budget stock. Just so you know the DBM and mags will be sold separately, so it'll end up around the $400 mark in the end.

[00tec]

Crappy photo time!

Here are the inner workings of a factory 700 Varmint stock. Your typical injected polymer stock. With a bipod and the heavy barrel it definitely flexes.

[TheBelly]

Play with height over bore on a ballistics program , it can induce problems because the angle between the bore and scope is bigger . Always better to be as close to the bore as possible .

I think the program can do the math to figure it out and spit out an answer that gives an educated start point. It still needs refinement and verification, though.

I used a 1.0" and a 3" height. That being said, I noticed that they were different. I can't say that either was a problem without verification. Smarter folks than me say that it doesn't matter that much, as long as the measurement that gets put into the "confuser" is accurate.

[Ronin13]

I think it will be a good stock. Haven't seen one in person but Magpul usually rocks. The price-point is good too. They have an option for mags and magwell. I think they will sell a ton of these. I would put my name down on one before they go "back-order" crazy. There are tons of great stock options for R700, but they get expensive fast! Ask me how I know? XLR Element is a great option too; they are in Grand Junction and colorado_hack is a dealer here on the board.

Take a look at these mounts, quality stuff and not super pricey. http://www.seekinsprecision.com/part...ope-bases.html

Be careful, there is no known cure for long range rifle sickness...

I was planning on there being no cure!
I looked at getting into a B&C M40 stock down the road: http://www.redhawkrifles.com/product...40-stock-black
I looked at getting a Leupold mount system with the PRW rings... all in all, the entire mounting system for under $75 at Cabela's, not a bad deal, considering they're selling the rifle for under $650. A sub $1500 system all said and done? I'm stoked, and it's easier to not feel guilty explaining the screaming deal to the GF.

[Delfuego]

I would recommend a 20MOA base and standard rings over a mounting "system". It works better and will allow you more options.
Find which ammo your new rifle likes, then save for a nice piece of glass.

[C Ward]

I think the program can do the math to figure it out and spit out an answer that gives an educated start point. It still needs refinement and verification, though.

I used a 1.0" and a 3" height. That being said, I noticed that they were different. I can't say that either was a problem without verification. Smarter folks than me say that it doesn't matter that much, as long as the measurement that gets put into the "confuser" is accurate.

The issue comes with an error in the scope height measurement , really easy to make especially on AR's . The closer to the bore the scope is to the bore is the smaller the induced error is . Also don't buy in to the anything within a 1/4 inch on scope height measurement is GTG . With accurate inputs my ballistics program is spot on no need to fiddle with the numbers to match the actual bullet path like Horus has everybody believing with there ATRAG junk .



The Magpul stock should be a solid product , I haven't seen it yet , the two people that were heavily involved with the design are both from a Marine sniper background and very good shooters . I would get the AICS adaptor for it because of those mags taking a longer OAL cartridge , not an issue if you shoot nothing but factory ammo but important with handloads .

The PRW rings are OK but I've seen them having issues with the cross bolts breaking and shifting zero's . The economy solution for scope mounting is an EGW base with Burris XTR rings . The Seekins mounts mentioned earlier are solid and worth the money .

[MarkCO]

I am in no way an optics and mount snob, but moving a ~$300 optic between a bolt gun and and AR just seems silly to me. You are going to have to put that much in your mount to get the RTZ you want. If you go with a $1000 optic, it starts to make sense a little, otherwise, just stick with an optic per gun path and you will be at the same money anyway.

With that said, you can mount a rail on your 700, Badger, Warne and others make them in 0, 20 MOA and other configurations, no drill needed. Yes, optic as low as you can get it to the bore. Burris XTR rings and Warne Maxima rings are good budget minded rings that you can get for use with or without a rail.

Stocks, Chuck is right, the SPS factory stock is crap. Mine is on the shelf in case I ever want to sell it. My SPS sits in an X-Ray chassis, which is a great budget option. I did play with the MagPul at SHOT, not convinced and I would not put my money on it being widely accepted by precision rifle shooters. For the couch commandos, a cheaper option that will sell like hotcakes and work fine for their 100 yard Youtube videos. The X-ray is proven and about the same price.

[fly boy]

I was planning on there being no cure!
I looked at getting into a B&C M40 stock down the road: http://www.redhawkrifles.com/product...40-stock-black
I looked at getting a Leupold mount system with the PRW rings... all in all, the entire mounting system for under $75 at Cabela's, not a bad deal, considering they're selling the rifle for under $650. A sub $1500 system all said and done? I'm stoked, and it's easier to not feel guilty explaining the screaming deal to the GF.

I found Red Hawk Rifles from gunbroker and thought about buying a custom rifle off the shelf. I just don't know what "lap the lugs" does for a rifle, and I would rather hold/feel it before I purchase.

As for Optics, I would agree with MarkCo - I will just put a set of rings and another $250-$300 scope on it. - I am a "couch commando"
http://www.redhawkrifles.com/product...altarget-rifle

[MarkCO]

Lapping the lugs is what you do with a case of 1000 rounds getting comfortable with your rig.