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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Wow...28 years? Where are you putting in for that you haven't drawn yet?
    I've put in for many areas over the years, just usually looking to play the odds (apps versus tags) but then I noticed that in the reg booklets they explained the process (moose, sheep and goat are all the same process). Per CPW reg booklet:

    10. WEIGHTED PREFERENCE increases your probability of drawing a moose license. It is calculated by converting your application number into a different application number, then dividing that new number by the amount of weighted points you have, plus one. This generates another new application number. Applications are sorted by this new number from lowest to highest and low numbers for each hunt code are awarded licenses.

    I called CPW and asked for clarification how this number was computed and they said that your application number is converted into a "random" number and then this "random" number is what is divided by your weighted points plus one. So that begs the question in my mind, are we dealing with just "random" based solely on total number of applicants for that species or is this "random" number generated for 10, 11, 12... or how many digits? I haven't been able to get an answer on that.

    So the way I see it, in reality, once you have your 3 points under your belt, it really is a lottery type of draw.
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    I'ts a POS system, both my daughter and SIL got their tags after only 3 years and both in the same year. My cuz has drawn 2 cow tags over the years.
    When I went to the CPW they had nothing to say as they SUBCONTRACT the lottery to a company in TN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    I'ts a POS system .......
    I think yes and no.

    Looking at it from only my point of view with regards to me drawing a tag, it sucks.

    Based on purely a cumulative point draw system such as deer and elk, I probably would have drawn a tag by now. This is true even with the point creep that would have occurred over all these years of applying.

    However, when I look at it from my grandson's chances ( 12 years old), realistically, the current system is probably the best, if not the only, chance he'll ever have to hunt a moose here.

    The first year I applied, there were 253 applicants for 3 bull tags. Last year that number was 19,957 (res and nr) applicants for 264 total tags, both bull and cow combined. Good news is that this year the proposed tags number 319.

    With moose being the hardest tag to draw and with so much demand for so relatively few tags , I really don't know if there is a better draw process or not. If my grandson ever draws and I don't, so be it. I'd give up any chance I may have if I could gurantee him his tag.
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    Yeah but after 28 years they need to give you a tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Yeah but after 28 years they need to give you a tag.
    ^^^ This I agree with

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan98121 View Post
    ^^^ This I agree with
    Thanks for the support guys, but the current system or some rendition thereof is probably the best way.

    Just using last years numbers as an example, it would take 75+ years for all applicants to draw a tag. You couple that with the ever increasing applicant pool, there is just no way that everyone who applies for a tag will get one.
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    After a certain # of years, those with the waited points should be placed in another draw separate from the "general" draw. Cut down on the YEARS, you have been waiting. Hell they will have to roll me out in a wheel chair by the time I get my tag.

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    When I talked with DOW, the guy told me the average wait is about 22 years... That's freaking nuts.

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    Sheep and goat results are posted. I add points to my total this year again bringing it to 3 with 7 weighted points. My dad however drew a Desert Bigorn Sheep Tag. I think I was just as excited for him as if it had been my name next to that tag. Lots of scouting and research to come in the following months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars View Post
    Sheep and goat results are posted. I add points to my total this year again bringing it to 3 with 7 weighted points. My dad however drew a Desert Bigorn Sheep Tag. I think I was just as excited for him as if it had been my name next to that tag. Lots of scouting and research to come in the following months.
    Congrats!! Good luck with the scouting and hunt

    Two more weeks for Elk/Deer/Moose/Pronghorn/Bear

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