I'm more of a tradionalist. I like the sidelocks, I shot percussion for elk as I don't have a .50 flinter. I have picked up several TC Renegades and Hawkens at pawn shops for under $150, a few were under $100. All have been good shooters and reliable. I've also picked up a few CVA sidlelocks for the same prices. I prefer the TCs, but they will work. My father and I picked up cow tags for muzzleloader down here in 85.