No mags yet for the Ravage88 , still promises that they'll come. He is working up a jig so smiths have an easier time with the conversion. I'm waiting for the mags to become available and a builder to price out the conversion before I get excited.

The Stiller action looks interesting. From what I read the action's use of savage mags means that chassis like the AI AT may have to be mod'd to fit the magazine usage. The bolt shaving lead off the top round in the mag seems to be an issue that can be easily addressed. The stiller is being offered in complete rifles from Europtic.

The Primal rights mod's were supposed to have their sign up time end on Oct 1, but I don't see any notification if the minimum of deposits was received to move forward. Also, it seems the pricing for the conversion isn't public? You get in (I don't know how far) and they'll tell you how much it is. I guess if you have to ask the price.....

I'm still in a holding pattern till the Ravage conversion mag and smithing issue comes to completion- but I guess that is the question. I would have thought that process would be further along. Who knows if the Primal Rights option is going forward. The Stiller seems to need some carving on chassis.

It seems that the three options are all trying to cock & (b)lock each other. All I can tell is that the stiller one is the only live commercial option right now.

That's my read on things.