At 25 yards there wasn't a good group at 15 they touched, so yea 25 yards was "all over the place". I was resting on my elbow when I fired. At 25 the red dot obscures the 3" by 3" diamond but I can center the picture just fine. I'm going to try different ammo next time and a rest too. I was with you in terms of your glock, I expect much better performance. I've trained and practiced with pistol 100x that of rifle so I may just be lacking skill.