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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Maybe you need to tell all the guys who race on the ice how bad the studs are for traction.
    Hey, I'm just relaying what I had read and stated as such. That is great all around but maybe doesn't help as much on a sliding stop, which is what I worry more than just getting going at a light or in a drift. Regardless of the truth of it, main point was just a silly idea when you can't or want to avoid 800 something on a new set.

    Though to get more into it, still have concern with studs for this state where you only have a few day stretches of ice scattered in the season so you end up wearing them out faster driving them on our dry winter roads.
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    If one was to pay more attention to how they drive and less on what "Might" work the best. One would have less issues when it happens. Once you're on ice unless you have 3/4 - 1" ice racing studs you're not stopping real fast, if at all.
    The spouse drove a 2WD pick em up for 12 yrs. Not once did she ever have an issue on snow or icy roads, running Firestone destination AT's . Slow off the line, reasonable speeds underway, slowing down by using the GEAR SELECTOR then brakes.
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    Chains are only for situations where you wouldn't be traveling faster than 25ish mph anyway. If you want something for being able to travel at normal speeds for most of your trip, you're just looking at getting good tires. If people are traveling 60 mph, you don't even need 4wd at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    Guess that fits my idea except it's more built into tire. Like I said don't an easy application probably wouldn't hold up or function well. Would be tgtbt if I could just get a can of deck step friction step stuff and gain 15% ice performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz19d View Post
    Guess that fits my idea except it's more built into tire. Like I said don't an easy application probably wouldn't hold up or function well. Would be tgtbt if I could just get a can of deck step friction step stuff and gain 15% ice performance
    For 5 minutes (then it will wear or peel off)
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    I can count on one hand the number of times I've actually used 4WD in the last 15 years. And one of two of those times were for slick, muddy roads out east and one of those times was coming down some trails coming down off the flat tops after a hunting trip. I have a brother in law who recently turned 50. Born and raised here. I think he just got his first 4WD truck a few years ago. He drove a 2WD Ford Ranger for a long time and always seemed to make it in to work just fine and never missed any family get togethers for the holidays no matter what the weather was like.

    Driving in snow and ice is more about driver skill and predicting your stops and turns more than it is about the vehicle or the tires.

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    My first vehicle was a like 91 s10 with the biggest of 2 6cylinders. That was before I knew about adding weight. Was not terribly fun but I did fine. Then one winter I got love tapped from a yellow Subaru from behind at about 50mph. Went back and forth twice before ending up nose first into the i25 median barrier. Got it slowed down to where no air bags but never happy abouy not being able to save it.

    Since that, winter ice has just always been a concern even though 5 years in my r32 never had any kind of problem. That car was very capable but yes I knew how to be easy and leave plenty of room esp at higher speeds etc. But because of what happened and now being in a very different vehicle I'll gladly take any advantage i can have.

    Ps, of course the banana-ru drive off.
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    Bag banana-ru, huh. I hate when that happens.

    Lol.

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    This always worked for me:


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