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    Wow...

    The majority of these posts were not what I was expecting. Breaks my heart.

    I pray for peace in all hearts, open eyes, open minds, and the ability to see the real enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Seems like everyone has missed the point of the thread. Which was that a group of people weren't negatively judged based on their appearance.
    I, like most thinking individuals, initially judge many things, if not all things based on appearance.
    It's called discernment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argonstrom View Post
    Wow...

    The majority of these posts were not what I was expecting. Breaks my heart.

    I pray for peace in all hearts, open eyes, open minds, and the ability to see the real enemy.
    What is "the real enemy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    What is "the real enemy?"
    Seriously? How about you tell me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by argonstrom View Post
    I pray for peace in all hearts, open eyes, open minds, and the ability to see the real enemy.
    I'd love to believe that the hatred of Islam was nothing more than simple close mindedness on the part of "dumb bubbas in the west" ... but you read their Qu'ran and Hadiths and look at the example of their Prophet and you will realize that the absence of peace, closed eyes and closed minds are in the Madrassas and Mosques, not here. Then you'll see who the real enemy is.

    Islam creates a huge problem for a pluralistic and tolerant west. It puts us in the position where we have to choose between the higher ideals of tolerance that western civilization is frankly built upon, and simple survival. The problem is that some people just simply can't be "gotten along with". Nothing wrong with lamenting that we're forced into this position, but in your quest to maintain those higher ideals of western civilization, don't fall int to the politically correct trap of cultural self hatred.

    I don't like this any more than you do.
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    ^^ Gotta see it for what it is. Good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argonstrom View Post
    Wow...

    The majority of these posts were not what I was expecting. Breaks my heart.

    I pray for peace in all hearts, open eyes, open minds, and the ability to see the real enemy.
    Quote Originally Posted by argonstrom View Post
    Seriously? How about you tell me?
    You "pray for ... the ability to see the real enemy."
    Surely you have something in mind.
    I'm just curious as to what it is you "see" as "the real enemy," since you brought it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I'd love to believe that the hatred of Islam was nothing more than simple close mindedness on the part of "dumb bubbas in the west" ... but you read their Qu'ran and Hadiths and look at the example of their Prophet and you will realize that the absence of peace, closed eyes and closed minds are in the Madrassas and Mosques, not here. Then you'll see who the real enemy is.

    Islam creates a huge problem for a pluralistic and tolerant west. It puts us in the position where we have to choose between the higher ideals of tolerance that western civilization is frankly built upon, and simple survival. The problem is that some people just simply can't be "gotten along with". Nothing wrong with lamenting that we're forced into this position, but in your quest to maintain those higher ideals of western civilization, don't fall int to the politically correct trap of cultural self hatred.

    I don't like this any more than you do.
    "...don't fall int [sic] to the politically correct trap of cultural self hatred..."

    Where did I do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    You "pray for ... the ability to see the real enemy."
    Surely you have something in mind.
    I'm just curious as to what it is you "see" as "the real enemy," since you brought it up.
    Do you carry? If so, are you able to determine what is a threat and what is not?

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