Big game semi-auto platform

[donek6977]

I love my FAL but I only use it with iron sights. For customization options and ease of mounting optics the AR-10 pattern may fit you a little better.

I think a decent lr scope and bipod is all i need for an FAL.

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[donek6977]

All depends on what you want to spend, and what you want.

My DPMS's have been 100% reliable. QC issues exist in nearly all manufacturers products.

I completely agree. Was just saying I was advised against DMPS due to some sub par quality on certain gun parts.

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[donek6977]

I'm in the process of building a new 308 AR for hunting (Aero Precision M5E1). It's a good combo of affordable but also quality from what I've read and my experience with the incomplete rifle so far.

I do like the 7mm and a BAR could also serve you well.

The AP M5E1 is a nice setup. Pricey and dmps parts so I'm nervous about that. But nice all the way around and great reviews from what i read and watched. Thanks for the recommendation.

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[donek6977]

I too use a Browning BAR 7mm Mag and would recommend them. I know of one for sale that is very low round count, is Belgium made and has a 3-9 Leupold on it. These thing are tack drivers as well and the semi-auto action really eats up recoil.

I have looked into the BAR and asked my father about it. He said his buddy has one and that I shot it and I remember it being somewhat light but not my style. I still want to stick with an AR profiled rifle. Thanks for yours and everybody's recommendation on the the BAR.

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[osok-308]

The AP M5E1 is a nice setup. Pricey and dmps parts so I'm nervous about that. But nice all the way around and great reviews from what i read and watched. Thanks for the recommendation.

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DPMS style parts. They do follow the specs of the DPMS rifles (for the most part), but most everything they do is made in-house.

[donek6977]

DPMS style parts. They do follow the specs of the DPMS rifles (for the most part), but most everything they do is made in-house.

Okay thank you for that information.

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[Grant H.]

I have to ask...

Did the person that warned you away from DPMS actually have any DPMS parts/guns? If so, what issues did they actually experience? What parts were so horrendous, that you are avoiding them at all cost?

[Firehaus]

Great looking rifle. Where you get it dipped at?

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It was dipped by Colorado Custom Look and cerokote done by Danger Lee. It's built on the Mega Maten platform. I prefer their quality.


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[donek6977]

It was dipped by Colorado Custom Look and cerokote done by Danger Lee. It's built on the Mega Maten platform. I prefer their quality.


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How much? I love Krytex camo. I want mine done in Pontus Krytex camo.

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[bjordan672]

I hunt Elk/Deer/Antelope and pigs and I have pondered this question for a while and for me it boils down to a couple different factors. Weight, Cost, Reliability and do I think the caliber will be around in 5 years. The primary factor that I consider is weight and that is what I will address.

My weight threshold for a rifle that is all day comfortable is ~7 Lbs. I carry a Tikka T3 ultralight (bolt gun) in 300 WM for all big game and this rifle tips the scales at 7.2 lbs (optic included in that weight). My previous gun was a Rem 700 which is ~8.2 lbs (optic included in that weight) which I found to be heavy after a few hours of lugging it up and down the hills.

I use a Aero Precision Mount (3.2oz) for my guns Usually coupled with a Burris Fullfield II 3-9 X 40 scope (13oz) as a bench mark for the minimum weight that will be required to add an optic. This makes the math super easy as the two add up to a hair over 1lb.

The problem with most semi-auto platforms is weight especially when it comes to semi-autos in a caliber that is reasonable to hunt with (greater than 0.24" in Colorado). If I hunted from a stand the number of rifles reasonable for me to consider would be endless but I average between 8-12 miles/day during the Elk season and the leading cause of fatigue for me is my rifle.

I looked into the AR308 platform as a possibility and there were two products that really stuck out to me during my research. The Windham SRC308 (7.2 lbs) and the DPMS GII AP4 (7.25 lbs). I think it is reasonable to expect to be able to put an optic on these and have a rifle in the 8.5 lb range which is higher than I would like to carry all day but still within reasonable allowances. Both of these rifles have a few ounces to loose in their from the factory state so you could reasonably expect to have them at around the 8lb mark with some careful part replacement (handguard and Frontsight/Gasblock).

I have recently become enamored with the 6.5 Grendel platform as a possibility for a Sub 8lb rifle capable of taking all my favorite game with the exception of Elk (personal prefrence). The Grendel can be had for $0.24/round for cheap practice rounds and is capable of fantastic accuracy. I recently put a rifle together using a Wolf/Anderson complete upper, MI Light weight 12" handguard, Joebobs adjustable gasblock. This coupled with my Magnesium lower is 6.8 lbs total (Optics included). I took this to the range last weekend and was able to shoot a 4 shot group that measured just over 1/2" at 100 yards using Hornady Black Ammunition in a 123gr ELD Match bullet.

This is just my opinion/experience. I hope this helps.