M-4 Unreliable Issues Hit The Sunday News

[Daniel_187]

I have never really had problems with dirt, it was more Wolf ammo the anything else. I use to shot the green coated stuff then I tried the plain steal case and about after 200 rounds I would get a case stuck in the chamber. I have not had it happen when I use brass. just my .02 I don't know if it matters but it was an upper from Galati International with a ER Shaw Barrel. don't know if that was the issuse or not

[Bailey Guns]

10/13/09: Sabre Defence M4 cleaned and lubed.
10/14/09: 250 rounds Wolf Polymer 55gr fired. 0 malfunctions. No cleaning, no lubrication after firing.
10/15/09: 900 rounds Wolf Polymer 55gr fired. 0 malfunctions. No cleaning, no lubrication.
10/19/09: 150 rounds Wolf Polymer 55gr fired. 0 malfunctions. Cleaned it. Liberally lubed it. What a PITA! Yes, it was VERY dirty. But it works with Wolf. Always.

[ColoEnthusiast]

Never thought that the wolf .223 was that consistent. What kind of groups can you attain with it??

[Bailey Guns]

MOT = Minute of Torso

I don't shoot it for precision. I shoot it for practice. It's plenty accurate for that.

But, I was easily hitting a 12"x10" steel plate at 250 yds last Thurs with open sights and/or an EoTech. That's accurate enough for me. I can't see any better than that.

[SA Friday]

And he just continues to abuse that poor thing. More vid of the abuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8SSQ_wIG4o

[SA Friday]

Now he's abusing a poor innocent AK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5WhVvtYak

[Bailey Guns]

But...but...that can't possibly happen. Everyone knows AKs can survive a nuclear explosion at ground-zero and still function. Everyone also knows that an AR must be kept and shot in a totally sterile, dust-free environment, meticulously maintained and lubricated and blessed by several holy men in order to work at even a mediocre level of reliability.

Oh...and the AR platform has to be an HK 416 to really work...any internet operator can tell you that.

[Daniel_187]

LMAO. HAHAHA. I wonder if it would have be diffrent if he use a 7.62x39 ak Just wondering. might be the same results.

[BigMat]

The last time I took a new shooter out, I handed him my AR, at which point he asks "So, this is an AK-47"
I say "nope that's an AR-15...like an M-16, basically"
he says "Oh, Don't they break a lot?"
"No, that's not really a problem"

off topic but-
-little while later-
I say "do you know how to work an AR?"
response "oh yeah"
I sit back and enjoy watching him fumble with trying to drop the bolt for a moment, then came the education you can't get on the History Chanel or an Xbox.

I may be a bad person, true, but these guns sure do have a reputation with people who don't know much about guns. Or those who pretend to know a lot about guns. I have read more than one book on firearms that mentions how unreliable the AR is.

[SA Friday]

They got the reputation for unreliability in Viet Nam, the first gen guns weren't really tested as well as they should have been. After many years of testing and redesign, they're pretty much a sewing machine.