pole barn/steel building/shop

[Ah Pook]

Mine had a snow load of 56" and wind to 120mph. i did a pole structure to keep the cost/taxes down. We added 2'x12's at the base of the walls for the concrete floor that was poured after the building was finished. I did fibercrete and the floor did crack in some areas.

Not sure about WY but some counties don't allow wood stoves in garages. Insurance cos are leery also. Radiant floor heat is nice but I don't know the cost. Water is nice to have, even if it's a spigot, with a util sink, that drains out to the ground. Get one of those all weather spigots that shuts the water off below grade. Go Pro Panel. The quality is better. Add more outlets than you think you will ever need. I got the cheap 11'x16' garage door and hated every minute of it. Get a sturdy door that actually seals. I got a 3'-4' apron and wished I'd gone for at least 10'. I didn't insulate (aluminum bubble wrap was it) and wished I had. Adding walls (thin plywood) would be something I'd also do. Shelving? Lighting?

[Great-Kazoo]

Throw in some ceiling fans while you're at it.

[MED]

I built my outbuilding 10 years ago. I went with a wood building that matched my house including the same 8/12 roof with a loft. As nice as mine looks, I would definitely go with a steel pole barn if I did it again; I could have done a larger building for less money. Depending on where you live, the dirt work can be really expensive. My neighbor who is currently building his pole barn, trucked in 600 tons of roadbase for his build site; I could look at the sign next time I'm out and edit my post with the company name. His pole barn install came with the insulation. One thing I regret is not adding the plumbing at the time of the build so I would recommend getting it done even if you don't think you will need it. As far as the wood stove goes, my agent explained it to me like this. If your building is a detached garage and the only garage for the house, then a wood stove is a definite no. If the building is an outbuilding and not the primary garage, then a stove is possible (fuel storage is the biggest issue). County regs I'm sure will impact that as well. We have a lot of people with wood stoves in their outbuildings up here so it is done.

[fly boy]

I am going to the process of hiring someone to build a 40'x60' pole barn on my property now. I've contacted Cleary and Steel Structures of America, and have appointment next week to get quotes. Neither places will do the electrical, and you have to do the leveling/excavating yourself. Standard concrete floor is 4-5" fibermesh. Some places will do rebar concrete. I am new at this as well, and i'm also learning.

How did it turn out?

I'm putting up a metal building right now. Down to trim. 40x60x16 and I've put in every bolt and screw myself.

My neighbor just put up a similar pole barn, dirt floor.

Pros/cons as I see them;
I had to have a foundation engineered for about $500. Concrete cost more than the building, about $21k. He can pour a slab whenever he wants and it doesn't have the deep walls or footers.

Mine is clear span. 16' at the side and almost 20' in the center to the roof sheeting. He had trusses, so a flat ceiling.

This part could be all in the shopping, but I paid about $15.7k for my engineered building with big ass supports and delivery. $16.4k with tax IIRC. He paid about $20k for his, just the wood and metal.

On the exterior, they look almost exactly the same.

ETA neither of us have done any utilities including electric yet.

What needs to be done pre-build if I plan on a dirt floor, concrete a few years later?

examples:

https://www.menards.com/main/buildin...694867&ipos=24

https://www.menards.com/main/buildin...895392&ipos=68

[rondog]

My biggest pipedream.....

[Irving]

Don't cheap out on construction, and use hurricane straps, lest the wind eat your lunch.

[bczandm]

This might help:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/

[fly boy]

damn,

sorry to see that Irving

[Irving]

Lol, it's not mine. Something I saw at work.