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Why not both?Originally Posted by Duman
I added a kickstarter to my tw200 for peace of mind. When I had my xt350, I was running it on a dead battery for months.
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For nimble, smaller is better. I use to have a nice cb400T for riding in town. Easy to work on, but going to Denver on that bike from Colorado Springs was a bit much.
Not sure if you can find a BMW K75, but that would be a nice smaller bike that could still work well. BMW and cheap don't go together; however, that bike is a bit long in the tooth and on the used market you should be able to find a sweet ride under 5k, with more than a few hitting 2-3k.
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Just keep that E-glide off the forest service roads, they don't like that shit. Not real fond of any dirt or sandy roads.
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Get the Honda or Kaw, those are bikes one can find parts for almost anywhere in the world. The beemer is easy to work on once you get past the german engineering intimidation factor. Sadly support in the states is few and far between, unlike other brands.
Can you post a pic of the 72, haven't seen one in a few years, especially a back to stock unit. I'm tired of looking at my friends 57 & 65 panheads.
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The german engineering doesn't intimidate me as much as the cost of parts and difficulty of maintenance. Both the honda and klr are water cooled. I have never had or even been around a water cooled bike. It seems like that might just be another level of complexity. I am hoping to go sit on a few examples this weekend and hopefully narrow the search some more.
I like this guys reviews. Great production, seems reasonable neutral vs being a sales pitch.
Has versys review iirc i encourage you check out. Heres the vstrom 1000
I'll throw in my 2 cents here because I haven't seen anyone talk about the NC700.
I bought my new 2014 NC700 in 2015. Straight outta the box, it needed at least a new seat and a windshield. Since then, I've also added bags and handlebar risers. The NC is my 13th motorcycle and I believe it's a lucky 13. It's kinda like the Honda Accord of motorcycles. A Swiss Army knife. A Black Lab dog. None of these is the "best" at anything, but they do everything well.
This being said, I wouldn't pick an NC for a steady diet of off-pavement riding. Don't get me wrong, people do it, but it sure seems like they're trying to force a square peg into a round hole. My preference for an off-pavement bike would be something like Honda's XR series. I'd be looking for one that provides just enough power to haul my weight and keep it as light as possible.
I've tried out bikes in the 250cc range and they feel a bit underpowered. I've owned a KLR650 and felt like it was too tall for me to be comfortable off road. As others have said, the KLR is a darned good bike and popular for many reasons.
More than anything, I think you need to be brutally honest with yourself when defining your mission. For me, I like to go on paved rides through the mountains. I like the scenery, so I'm not looking to have my head down blasting through canyons sportbike style. I did a bunch of trail riding as a kid, but I've come to terms with my mortality and my waning ability to recover quickly from scuffing my body up and have decided that I'm no longer willing to flail around on trails.
Sorry for the rambling thoughts... the TL/DR version: Define your mission and then buy appropriately.
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Okay, 7 months later I reached peace with myself and bought a NC700x DCT. I hope to do a lot of forrest service roads etc, but reality says it will spend more time on pavement. I don't heal as quickly as I used to, so the DCT "should" remove temptation and keep me from trying to take on more than I or the bike can handle.
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