Close
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 35

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Machine Gunner Colorado Osprey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Kinda near Peyton, CO
    Posts
    1,388

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but what loadings are you comparing of .223 & 6x45? I know very little about the 6x45 aside from it being a 6mm/.243 stuffed into a .223 case.
    Pick any... its one of those things that makes mathematicians/ballisticians go grey. Lighter bullets are almost identical to 223.
    By using the same parent case and going to a larger bullet diameter .243 vs .224 the same weight bullet will have less bearing surface(bullet to barrel) causing less friction while increasing surface area where pressure is applied(diameter at rear of bullet) and increasing velocity while decreasing chamber pressure allowing a higher velocity for a given bullet weight between the two cartridges. Additionally the ability to shoot 75-85 grain bullets in the 6x45 with a wide variety of projectiles available. That aside for some reason, I'm guessing the larger diameter surface area of the 6x45 over the 223 seems to anchor animals like coyotes for a DRT even an increase of smack noise on a good hit.

    55 grain bullets as high as 3560ft/sec, 60 grain loads as high as 3400ft/sec, 80 grain as high as 3000ft/sec and 85's at 2900.

    My go to loadings are Sierra 60grain HP with AA2015(3100ft/sec), 80 grain Remington SP with H335 (2900ft/sec), 85 grain Sierra GamekingHP with H335 (2800ft/sec)
    BTW these are NOT hot loadings to get these velocities. Also a 85 grain bullet without a plastic tip will fit in standard AR mags, no need for single feeding like you would with 75 grain and heavier in a 223
    Last edited by Colorado Osprey; 12-16-2017 at 06:40.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

  2. #2
    Joe_K
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey View Post
    Pick any... its one of those things that makes mathematicians/ballisticians go grey. Lighter bullets are almost identical to 223.
    By using the same parent case and going to a larger bullet diameter .243 vs .224 the same weight bullet will have less bearing surface(bullet to barrel) causing less friction while increasing surface area where pressure is applied(diameter at rear of bullet) and increasing velocity while decreasing chamber pressure allowing a higher velocity for a given bullet weight between the two cartridges. Additionally the ability to shoot 75-85 grain bullets in the 6x45 with a wide variety of projectiles available. That aside for some reason, I'm guessing the larger diameter surface area of the 6x45 over the 223 seems to anchor animals like coyotes for a DRT even an increase of smack noise on a good hit.

    55 grain bullets as high as 3560ft/sec, 60 grain loads as high as 3400ft/sec, 80 grain as high as 3000ft/sec and 85's at 2900.

    My go to loadings are Sierra 60grain HP with AA2015(3100ft/sec), 80 grain Remington SP with H335 (2900ft/sec), 85 grain Sierra GamekingHP with H335 (2800ft/sec)
    BTW these are NOT hot loadings to get these velocities. Also a 85 grain bullet without a plastic tip will fit in standard AR mags, no need for single feeding like you would with 75 grain and heavier in a 223
    Thanks for the info, Makes you wonder why the .mil didn’t opt for this a long, long time ago.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  3. #3
    Machine Gunner Jeffrey Lebowski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Golden
    Posts
    1,615

    Default

    Wow!
    Obviously not a golfer.

  4. #4
    Grand Master Know It All Hummer's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    North of Ward in Subaru County
    Posts
    2,611

    Default

    Very neat, that will make a nice mount. I once had a road-kill weasel mounted. Weasels and badgers are related, both in the mustela family. The weasel mount deteriorated after about 20 years. I should have treated it every few years with borax or Raid.

    I encounter badgers occasionally in the mountain parks and meadows around the Flat Tops, up to 10,000'. A couple years ago my wife spotted one on our farm outside Palisade--more desert prairie. I think they may be responsible for sudden drops in the prairie dog numbers in the small colony on the farm.

  5. #5

    Default

    Never seen a badger out in the wild till this past summer. Saw two of the together while camping in pike national forest. Solitary huh?

  6. #6
    Carries A Danged Big Stick buffalobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Hoyt
    Posts
    15,820

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sampson View Post
    Never seen a badger out in the wild till this past summer. Saw two of the together while camping in pike national forest. Solitary huh?
    Gotta mate sometime.
    If you're unarmed, you are a victim


    Feedback

  7. #7
    Grand Master Know It All newracer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Timnath
    Posts
    4,582

    Default

    I see them a lot while prairie dog shooting and dove hunting out east, I just leave them alone, personally I don't like to hunt predators except for coyotes.

    One time I shot a prairie dog and while he was flopping around a big badger ran over, grabbed the prairie dog and took it to its hole. Pretty cool to see.

  8. #8
    Witness Protection Reject rondog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Parker, CO
    Posts
    8,292
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I was picking up brass one night at BLGC with a flashlight, and two of those things came towards me snapping their jaws. They had a den in the side berm of one of the ranges. Rather pissy, they were, about me being in their yard. I just got in the truck and left, it was time to go anyway. I had no reason to shoot them, they weren't hurting me and weren't close enough to.
    There's a lot more of us ugly mf'ers out here than there are of you pretty people!

    - Frank Zappa

    Scrotum Diem - bag the day!

    It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.....

  9. #9
    Grand Master Know It All BladesNBarrels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Lakewood, CO
    Posts
    3,640

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    I was picking up brass one night at BLGC with a flashlight, and two of those things came towards me snapping their jaws. They had a den in the side berm of one of the ranges. Rather pissy, they were, about me being in their yard. I just got in the truck and left, it was time to go anyway. I had no reason to shoot them, they weren't hurting me and weren't close enough to.
    Now, they are a couple of tough cookies.
    Livin' on the edge - in more ways than one.
    Buying Randall Made Knives and Randall 1911 Pistols

    BladesNBarrels Feedback

  10. #10
    Carries A Danged Big Stick buffalobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Hoyt
    Posts
    15,820

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    I was picking up brass one night at BLGC with a flashlight, and two of those things came towards me snapping their jaws. They had a den in the side berm of one of the ranges. Rather pissy, they were, about me being in their yard. I just got in the truck and left, it was time to go anyway. I had no reason to shoot them, they weren't hurting me and weren't close enough to.
    Probably had a litter in the den.
    If you're unarmed, you are a victim


    Feedback

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •