Funny you mentioned that Ray. On a long time you tube channel the other day guy says honing steels are the worse thing to do with a knife. I have used a honing steel on all my kitchen knives forever with great results. Same principle as stropping- do it before they get dull !!
Was that Wranglerstar? With the honing thing, do hold still hold the knife the same way you would while sharpening? In other words, blade first?