Close
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Hoosier1961
    Guest

    Default Smith and Wesson MP15

    Hello everyone, I just purchased my first AR. Smith and Wesson M&P15. Was considering shooting wolf ammo for practice but I saw a notice on there web site that follows.
    ?WOLF ARMS UPPERS Click Here?? ? ? ??ADVISORY

    Toggle navigation

    ADVISORY

    *** Advisory Warning - June 8, 2017 ***

    WOLF Performance Ammunition has received notifications relating to Smith & Wesson M&P-15 rifles that are discharging out of battery which is evidenced by a lack of damage to the chamber and barrel extension. This shows that the rifle?s bolt did not lock into the barrel, yet the hammer was still able to strike the firing pin to detonate the cartridge and cause a failure.

    These failures can cause major damage to the firearm and bodily injury. As a result, WOLF Ammunition does NOT recommend using our ammunition with any Smith and Wesson M&P-15 rifles until this issue is resolved. Moving forward, WOLF?s 100% Performance Guarantee will not cover any damages associated with Smith & Wesson M&P 15 rifle
    My question is does anyone know if that issue was resolved? The notice is 2 and a half years old. Anyone else with a M&P shoot wolf ammo? Thanks for any information

  2. #2

    Default

    I don’t shoot any steel through ARs. Too finnicky with ammo. I’ll shoot anything through an AK, but not an AR
    _______________________________________________
    My Feedback
    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/27366-ghettodub




    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Yeah, Leave it to our congress to be bipartisan when it comes to screwing the constitution.
    "Al Qaeda had better benefits than Wal-Mart. Although at Wal-Mart, you get to wear your vest more than once." -- Stephen Colbert

  3. #3
    Machine Gunner whitewalrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    1,872

    Default

    if a gun is discharging out of battery, it doesn't matter what brand of ammo you are shooting. I know they had a recall on their MP15-22's for firing out of battery, but they fixed that one.

  4. #4
    BIG PaPa ray1970's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    18,799
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Smith and Wesson MP15

    I may need some educating. I didn?t think the AR could fire out of battery? I thought that until the bolt was pushed back on the cam pin that the firing pin couldn?t protrude past the breach face?
    Last edited by ray1970; 01-05-2020 at 18:38. Reason: Grammar. Thanks auto correct

  5. #5
    Machine Gunner whitewalrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    1,872

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I may need some educating. I didn?t think the AR could fire out of battery? I thought that until the bolt was pushed back on the cam pin that the firing pin couldn?t protrude past the breach face?
    They aren't supposed to, as you mention the firing pin wont come out unless its in battery (or really close). And the BCG would catch the hammer instead of the firing pin, so even if it were to go fully into battery due to the hammer strike, shouldn't be enough to ignite the primer...you would just have it snap into battery.

  6. #6
    BIG PaPa ray1970's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    18,799
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Yeah. That?s sort of what I was trying to say. Basically, until the bolt is locked into the barrel extension lugs (in battery) it is pretty much impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer.

  7. #7
    Industry Partner BPTactical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    North Metro
    Posts
    13,962

    Default

    I have seen 3 that fired OOB. Technically in battery but the bolts were unlocked. 2 were select fire and the auto sears were worn severely, likely causing the hammer to release just a hair early.
    The other was a Bushmaster that had debris (brass) wedge the firing pin forward, essentially making it a fixed firing pin weapon.
    In all 3 instances the weapons were destroyed.
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

    Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...

  8. #8
    Possesses Antidote for "Cool" Gman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Puyallup, WA
    Posts
    17,848

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    I have seen 3 that fired OOB. Technically in battery but the bolts were unlocked. 2 were select fire and the auto sears were worn severely, likely causing the hammer to release just a hair early.
    The other was a Bushmaster that had debris (brass) wedge the firing pin forward, essentially making it a fixed firing pin weapon.
    In all 3 instances the weapons were destroyed.
    In the case of the Bushmaster, isn't that considered a 'slamfire' situation?
    Liberals never met a slippery slope they didn't grease.
    -Me

    I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them.
    -Also Me


  9. #9
    Industry Partner BPTactical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    North Metro
    Posts
    13,962

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    In the case of the Bushmaster, isn't that considered a 'slamfire' situation?
    Yes, end result is the same though.
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

    Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...

  10. #10
    Possesses Antidote for "Cool" Gman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Puyallup, WA
    Posts
    17,848

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Yes, end result is the same though.
    True. Hello primer, meet firing pin. BOOM!

    Thanks for the response.
    Liberals never met a slippery slope they didn't grease.
    -Me

    I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them.
    -Also Me


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •