my first AR buid question.....12" 6.5 grendel

[Not_A_Llama]

Personally, I dunno that I'd bother trying to hunt with it unless I was going to SBR it. Get enough of a dickhead wildlife officer and he might even consider a foam bumper on the pistol tube to be an "attachment".

ATF classification is helpful to clarify pistol vs rifle, but I don’t think having it under ATF SBR status does anything to negate the 16” minimum barrel length hunting regulation.

I run my AR pistols as bare buffer tube while hunting. Don’t care to be a legal test case.

[CS1983]

ATF classification is helpful to clarify pistol vs rifle, but I don’t think having it under ATF SBR status does anything to negate the 16” minimum barrel length hunting regulation.

I run my AR pistols as bare buffer tube while hunting. Don’t care to be a legal test case.

Gah. Staring at numbers all day and for some reason misread the minimum 16”. Good catch.

[ray1970]

I generally try not to question another person?s desire to do something under my ?to each his own? policy.

But, in this case, if a person were intent on hunting with the 6.5 Grendel, why not just go with an actual 16? barreled rifle instead of saving that four inches of length for the pistol?

Curious more than anything.

Does it have something to do with the whole unloaded rifle in a vehicle or on an ATV thing? Can the pistol be kept loaded in a vehicle or on an ATV?

[00tec]

Does it have something to do with the whole unloaded rifle in a vehicle or on an ATV thing? Can the pistol be kept loaded in a vehicle or on an ATV?

This is the reason I want to build a 308 pistol. First, it's just ridiculous enough for me, and second, I can keep it hot when riding the RZR.

[Irving]

This is the reason I want to build a 308 pistol. First, it's just ridiculous enough for me, and second, I can keep it hot when riding the RZR.

How confident are you that you won't end up a test case though? I wouldn't be. Well, within the context of hunting I would worry about it. Just out trail riding, I might not worry as much.

[00tec]

How confident are you that you won't end up a test case though? I wouldn't be. Well, within the context of hunting I would worry about it. Just out trail riding, I might not worry as much.

Just for trail riding. Not going to play with the game wardens.

[zimagold]

I saw a post on Rokslide awhile back about someone getting told braces were now ok by CPW. So I called and initially I was told they were ok but with some hesitation by a person at the Ft. Collins office. I then asked if I could talk to one of the officers for my GMU. I ended up going down the rabbit hole and speaking with a few CPW officers. They would not give a straight answer for braces and kept deferring to another officer. The final officer I spoke with was the local expert on methods of take (Front Range Area). He basically said if they feel it's a stock you get a ticket. I asked if he was familiar with SIG Style AR braces and he simply redirected to the previous statement. After getting the feeling that everyone at CPW is eager to write tickets, I decided to go the route of a KAC Tube and Shockwave Blade. I remove the blade for hunting and just using a bare pistol tube. A bare pistol tube was the only thing I got an actual "That's legal" from CPW.

As to why not just a 16". I've done that and it works, but a 17.5" effective length with suppressor makes for a very handy and pack-able setup when hunting burns with lots of dead fall.

[Not_A_Llama]

But, in this case, if a person were intent on hunting with the 6.5 Grendel, why not just go with an actual 16? barreled rifle instead of saving that four inches of length for the pistol?

I consider it a significant increase in handiness. Though to echo zimagold, I can toss my TBAC Ultra 5 on there, and I have a suppressed compact rig that hits harder at 800 yards than a 357 Mag at the muzzle.

[kidicarus13]

I saw a post on Rokslide awhile back about someone getting told braces were now ok by CPW. So I called and initially I was told they were ok but with some hesitation by a person at the Ft. Collins office. I then asked if I could talk to one of the officers for my GMU. I ended up going down the rabbit hole and speaking with a few CPW officers. They would not give a straight answer for braces and kept deferring to another officer. The final officer I spoke with was the local expert on methods of take (Front Range Area). He basically said if they feel it's a stock you get a ticket. I asked if he was familiar with SIG Style AR braces and he simply redirected to the previous statement. After getting the feeling that everyone at CPW is eager to write tickets, I decided to go the route of a KAC Tube and Shockwave Blade. I remove the blade for hunting and just using a bare pistol tube. A bare pistol tube was the only thing I got an actual "That's legal" from CPW.

As to why not just a 16". I've done that and it works, but a 17.5" effective length with suppressor makes for a very handy and pack-able setup when hunting burns with lots of dead fall.

Are you also the guy writing BATFE asking for clarification on every single decision they've ever published? Good Lord.

[Irving]

In his defense, it is MUCH more likely to run into a game warden while hunting than it is to have someone question whatever is the newest flavor of pistol brace while at the range.