Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
This is pretty much my experience, and I'm a bit frustrated to see so many new devices this year be focused on wifi / custom apps. Great that they work with Google/Alexa, etc. but I really just want something that works quickly, locally, with my hub instead of relying on wifi and the cloud. zwave/zwave+ has been pretty good to me in general. I was thinking about putting in my first zigbee device though last week (looking to automate a pullchain ceiling fan with no wall switch with that hampton bay wink remote that everyone seems to like)...
Z-wave and zigbee are great but can be problematic without a good solid mesh. That means reliable repeating devices as well. Repeater bulbs are crap. I had to ditch the few Cree and GE Link bulbs I had. Sengled makes a great bulb that doesn't repeat.

I ditched Wink over a year ago, they've been going down the shitter for a while and went to a subscription model a few months back.

Everything I have works with Hubitat and it's local and FAST (remote and cloud stuff is supported). Best of both worlds. I did have to add a specific sensor (SmartThings multisensor) to get the MyQ garage door integration running reliably, but other than that, no stranded devices. Tons of community support, drivers, apps, etc.