Thank you for the responce and yes, your match Hoser. I did a read through of the other thread but was unsure of the match paticulars. Fully understanding the indian and arrow anology, but the arrow fletching needs to be up to the task. The CZ is a very good shooter, but not quite to the level of the new generation of custom offerings. Wind call was the other third of the equasion in ARA, 4 flags and a Beg's wind meter in 50 yards standard equipement, silly old guy game, so I do understand the great equilizer. I think it will be a good plan to come out and check out the match flow this month, looks like great time and a bit of a learning curve. I'll have to break out the mat to see if the back will allow prone agian.